Last time I mentioned the use of plumbing and pissing pants to allow for longer periods of total rubber enclosure without having to use suits with zip opening. For me, zips can be troublesome and can impair the total rubbery “sealed-ness” of the experience, so it’s a subject I am persistently trying to improve on. That’s why there are quite a few posts on the subject.
Although I admit to appearing to be a little preoccupied by my plumbing, its not that I started out totally fixated by body functions. However, I have long been obsessed about extending the amount of time I can live comfortably sealed in rubber and dealing with body functions just became part of that quest.
As time has gone on, I must confess that I feel some auto-erotic pleasure from just the thought of devising clean and neat rubbery solutions to what would otherwise be mundane necessarily. It’s also partly to do with giving over control to my rubber suit – which is also partly my life support – as, when perfected, everything coming into and out of my body would be managed by a rubbery extension to my latex cocoon. The all encompassing nature of this is very much a turn on for me.
The wrong (under-)trousers?
So are the rubber sheath pissing pants the perfect answer? I would say not and so I am experimenting with alternatives. I touched on some of the drawbacks in my last entry, including the feel being so different and being initially overpowering for regular use.
There is also the question of how effective they are. When worn in combination with a sheath suite they provide an acceptably dependable solution to pissing, but this combo is just too intense and different from my tastes. I have also worn them in my heavy rubber neck entry suit (diver dry suit style) where they feel a little better, but are less reliable with more potential for a small proportion of piss backing up and eventually leaking into the main suit. Not nice when you might be in there for the rest of the day.
As an alternative I have tried a set of pissing pants I bought recently in Expectations (London). I think these pants are made in Germany, they come with optional rubber collection bag with leg straps and I suspect they are actually intended for women, not men. They are open crotch black pants with a semi transparent large pouch bonded to the crotch – which dangles between the legs and is plumbed to a rubber pipe at it’s lowest point.
When worn by me, the pouch forms a snug home for the penis and balls. When I piss, the pouch collects the urine and it drains into the rubber leg bladder. As this is of limited capacity, particularly given it is in a fairly tight suit, I have modified what happens next. Essentially the leg bladder is also plumbed, this time out of the suit such that it can be pumped empty.
Pros and cons… The pouch is snug before an erection and does not feel like wearing a sheath. However it is very restrictive as soon as I get sexually stimulated, such that it cannot take up its usual fully erect position. This can be quite fun, but also it can be fairly weird and borders on uncomfortable. I have had some degree of success in it effectively plumbing away my piss, although you have to be careful when pissing as it does drain very slowly. If you want to try it yourself, bear in mind it will require some customizing to get it to fit and drain well.
Time will tell if they are better than the sheath pants, but my instinct is that these new pants are more of a prototype than a perfect solution. I think that if it were remade with a more generous pouch, it would be less noticeable to wear and would feel like being in a normal suit/pants/tights. Also, a generous pouch would function / drain better and then the wettest are would be further away from the skin.
After pissing, there would still be a lot of moisture in the pouch, which is undesirable as my genitalia would stay wet, so thinking of ways to deal with this. After pissing, maybe the pouch could be pumped with something to displace the water. I thought of liquid silicon to displace the piss and any other water based moisture. Alternatively I am thinking of an initial flush with clean water, and then pumped with air to drive out moisture. It would probably take very many changes of air to dry out and this could be automated like the cycles of a washing machine.
Other Plumbing
Of course there is more than piss to deal with. There are outputs of shit, gas, sweat and even saliva and mucus. There are also inputs of air, fluid and food.
Inputs are not really the limiting factor. If you are happy to breathe air from the outside environment (even if though a mask, cylinder, bag or tube) you don’t need to deal with the other inputs for many hours - and when necessary I have been able to go without even fluid for several days.
If you make sure you take steps to stay cool, it will be the piss problem that you hit first, probably after just a few hours. As I now have working solutions for piss and can see that I will be able to optimize these to reliably enable ever longer and longer endurances, the other requirements are at last looking to become limitations which I need to tackle.
When think of a regular session, I often find that I need to shit at least once every 24 hours. About this time frame, even when I take care not to overheat, the moisture levels in my suit are starting to become significant. At the moment I deal with this by at least one complete change of rubber every day and I have to make sure I shit just before putting on a new suit to give me enough endurance. In practice, to live a comfortable life, this brings down my time in rubber to considerably less than 24 hours. So I would like to come up with a plumbing solution – which will essentially be to have my anus plugged with enema tubes while in my suit.
Now as I have been concentrating on pissing, I have not actually got around to plumbing myself up to a enema – but I have started experiments and training. The first thing that will be difficult to get used to will be wearing a plug all the time. I have started training by “wearing” a couple of very modest rubber pipes. As anyone who has tried but plug will know, this take a lot of getting used to. In my case I think I have a smaller orifice (tight arse!) which makes the whole thing a bit mind bending. After a while the modest anal intrusion feels somewhere between unbelievably stimulating and quite uncomfortable.
I have been told that butt plugs and the like get easier to take after a while so I am persisting. Training is tough however, as imagine the pipes being trapped under all your rubber – which you committed to being locked into all day. After a few hours it really starts to drive you mad and you cannot really get at it. Like an itch, you cannot make it go away, all you can do is scratch it (wiggle you butt/pipes), which of course only makes their presence more obvious and intense.
That enough for now, but love to here any constructive suggestions or comments.
Sealed
2 comments:
Good to have you blogging again. I hope your life will settle down now.
I am as you may remeber widowed, no immediate family, and with a modest income so I am pretty free to rubber up. I am now known locally as the rubber man because I enjoy showing off as near complete enclosurte as I dare in warm weather.
But I am getting on now and no longer have the stamina or sex drive. I still have modest rubber fun though. My varied vanilla life is more important to me.
I have commented to you before about your idea of completely rubbered anonymous contact. I could manage on a trip north to come to you and get fully hooded up before meeting. I need a voice changer though. Think about it.
As for plumbing I jjust unzip to piss. If I have to open the bowels I have to strip off most of my gear most inconveniently. I do not reckonto remain rubbered more than 36 hours at the maximum - after that time I suspect I am beginning to stink noticeably and my heavy gear is chafing.
Hope to read more of your blogs.
I am interested in the mental state which accompanies the long term encasement.
I fully understand the desire for a perfect encasement, but this can be like a perfect wax on your car, or a paint job. When it's done the car looks great and then you deal with time. You can stand there admire your work and experience satisfaction but the environment will begin to have its effects.
In the case of encasement the idea is not only the look of encasement, the idea of enclosure of your body, but of the experience of all that enclosure which "feels" like "something". To you and most rubberists, the feeling is sensual and sexual and both of these involve some sort of movement or pressure beyond the normal steady state. You mention the how you like you genitals to be stimulated by the rubber and without it you have a non starter. Or if there is pain it is a failure.
Many people want to extend the sexual feelings they experience. So they talk about longer sex, lasting, and so forth... multiple orgasms... all things which push the experience into a longer time frame.
Orgasm feels great for a few seconds, why not for a few hours.. or endlessly? Same applies to sexual arousal, a pleasing but somewhat frustrating experience if it does not lead to orgasm. However, chastity fams seem to relish in sexual tension much more than the average person and place a very high value on the orgasm by limiting them.
My own observations which align with what nuero-physiologists tell us, is that we adapt to steady state stimuli, and our experience of them WILL INEVITABLY change.
So here in lies the conundrum of the extended experience - time will defeat any and all experience unless there is "change". Essentially you might be able to extend some of your responses, augment them, but this IS time limited.
In the case of enclosure one the things which defeat the "good stuff" are all the many things which cause discomfort and pain... the very same things which in "small doses" cause the pleasing stimuli.
Normal clothes are comfortable when we can't feel them. They could be sensual when we can, but as noted above this will fade.
If you take the example of the aroma of latex which may be pleasing, it too will not be experienced after a period of time. Your nervous system will adapt / habituate to the aroma and it is ignored in the brain as a "steady state" of no significance.
I think that there is a way to design the perfect encasement for any individual based on their physiology, but pushing it into long extended periods becomes the goal and the sensual aspects cannot be sustained and it becomes a mental ( as well as) a physical challenge.
Enclosure can and does impact on one's erotic experience if one is susceptible to the qualities of rubber, but as you point out and others have also discovered, at some point which is not very long, it passes from the sensual to the sexual to the tolerable to the uncomfortable to the painful.
You can change the dose to make it more tolerable and comfortable at the risk of losing the intensity of sensuality and sexuality and wear it for more of an emotional or fashion need.
I see these tall heels women wear very much like this. For some these are very sexy to wear I(at first), but painful over time. Many love the look and associate them with sex appeal and so they learn to wear them all day. But now they are just shoes and they are going about their business. Either they have learned to accept the discomfort the the "psychological" benefits... attention and so on... or they tolerate the pain for fashion.
It seems that comfortable and sexy can be the same. If it's too comfortable it doesn't feel sexy! If it's sexy it becomes uncomfortable over time!
So this brings me to the question as to what IS the goal of endurance? What is long enough? Is it worth while to endure but lose the sensuality and the eroticism?
If LatexLadyII is any indication, her experiences seem to require more intensity, diversity and lots of restrictive bondage to defeat the steady state conundrum.
I'm content with "less is more".
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