Last time I mentioned the use of plumbing and pissing pants to allow for longer periods of total rubber enclosure without having to use suits with zip opening. For me, zips can be troublesome and can impair the total rubbery “sealed-ness” of the experience, so it’s a subject I am persistently trying to improve on. That’s why there are quite a few posts on the subject.
Although I admit to appearing to be a little preoccupied by my plumbing, its not that I started out totally fixated by body functions. However, I have long been obsessed about extending the amount of time I can live comfortably sealed in rubber and dealing with body functions just became part of that quest.
As time has gone on, I must confess that I feel some auto-erotic pleasure from just the thought of devising clean and neat rubbery solutions to what would otherwise be mundane necessarily. It’s also partly to do with giving over control to my rubber suit – which is also partly my life support – as, when perfected, everything coming into and out of my body would be managed by a rubbery extension to my latex cocoon. The all encompassing nature of this is very much a turn on for me.
The wrong (under-)trousers?
So are the rubber sheath pissing pants the perfect answer? I would say not and so I am experimenting with alternatives. I touched on some of the drawbacks in my last entry, including the feel being so different and being initially overpowering for regular use.
There is also the question of how effective they are. When worn in combination with a sheath suite they provide an acceptably dependable solution to pissing, but this combo is just too intense and different from my tastes. I have also worn them in my heavy rubber neck entry suit (diver dry suit style) where they feel a little better, but are less reliable with more potential for a small proportion of piss backing up and eventually leaking into the main suit. Not nice when you might be in there for the rest of the day.
As an alternative I have tried a set of pissing pants I bought recently in Expectations (London). I think these pants are made in Germany, they come with optional rubber collection bag with leg straps and I suspect they are actually intended for women, not men. They are open crotch black pants with a semi transparent large pouch bonded to the crotch – which dangles between the legs and is plumbed to a rubber pipe at it’s lowest point.
When worn by me, the pouch forms a snug home for the penis and balls. When I piss, the pouch collects the urine and it drains into the rubber leg bladder. As this is of limited capacity, particularly given it is in a fairly tight suit, I have modified what happens next. Essentially the leg bladder is also plumbed, this time out of the suit such that it can be pumped empty.
Pros and cons… The pouch is snug before an erection and does not feel like wearing a sheath. However it is very restrictive as soon as I get sexually stimulated, such that it cannot take up its usual fully erect position. This can be quite fun, but also it can be fairly weird and borders on uncomfortable. I have had some degree of success in it effectively plumbing away my piss, although you have to be careful when pissing as it does drain very slowly. If you want to try it yourself, bear in mind it will require some customizing to get it to fit and drain well.
Time will tell if they are better than the sheath pants, but my instinct is that these new pants are more of a prototype than a perfect solution. I think that if it were remade with a more generous pouch, it would be less noticeable to wear and would feel like being in a normal suit/pants/tights. Also, a generous pouch would function / drain better and then the wettest are would be further away from the skin.
After pissing, there would still be a lot of moisture in the pouch, which is undesirable as my genitalia would stay wet, so thinking of ways to deal with this. After pissing, maybe the pouch could be pumped with something to displace the water. I thought of liquid silicon to displace the piss and any other water based moisture. Alternatively I am thinking of an initial flush with clean water, and then pumped with air to drive out moisture. It would probably take very many changes of air to dry out and this could be automated like the cycles of a washing machine.
Other Plumbing
Of course there is more than piss to deal with. There are outputs of shit, gas, sweat and even saliva and mucus. There are also inputs of air, fluid and food.
Inputs are not really the limiting factor. If you are happy to breathe air from the outside environment (even if though a mask, cylinder, bag or tube) you don’t need to deal with the other inputs for many hours - and when necessary I have been able to go without even fluid for several days.
If you make sure you take steps to stay cool, it will be the piss problem that you hit first, probably after just a few hours. As I now have working solutions for piss and can see that I will be able to optimize these to reliably enable ever longer and longer endurances, the other requirements are at last looking to become limitations which I need to tackle.
When think of a regular session, I often find that I need to shit at least once every 24 hours. About this time frame, even when I take care not to overheat, the moisture levels in my suit are starting to become significant. At the moment I deal with this by at least one complete change of rubber every day and I have to make sure I shit just before putting on a new suit to give me enough endurance. In practice, to live a comfortable life, this brings down my time in rubber to considerably less than 24 hours. So I would like to come up with a plumbing solution – which will essentially be to have my anus plugged with enema tubes while in my suit.
Now as I have been concentrating on pissing, I have not actually got around to plumbing myself up to a enema – but I have started experiments and training. The first thing that will be difficult to get used to will be wearing a plug all the time. I have started training by “wearing” a couple of very modest rubber pipes. As anyone who has tried but plug will know, this take a lot of getting used to. In my case I think I have a smaller orifice (tight arse!) which makes the whole thing a bit mind bending. After a while the modest anal intrusion feels somewhere between unbelievably stimulating and quite uncomfortable.
I have been told that butt plugs and the like get easier to take after a while so I am persisting. Training is tough however, as imagine the pipes being trapped under all your rubber – which you committed to being locked into all day. After a few hours it really starts to drive you mad and you cannot really get at it. Like an itch, you cannot make it go away, all you can do is scratch it (wiggle you butt/pipes), which of course only makes their presence more obvious and intense.
That enough for now, but love to here any constructive suggestions or comments.
Sealed
Monday, March 31, 2008
Monday, March 10, 2008
To be a plumbed rubber object
I have long held a desire to be “plumbed” in such a way as to allow me to function comfortably for extended periods without ever breaking the seal on my total rubber enclosure. Over the last few months I have revisited this subject, determined to find workable solutions.
I have tried in-dwelling catheters, which are the ultimate as far as a plumbing solution. However, as you will see from earlier posts, they are not suitable for me. As I may be plumbed all day every day, the solution has to work when I ejaculate, and with in-dwelling catheters I have always experienced pain during climax and discomfort after. I know others have been OK, but guess I am just unlucky.
The most simple solution I have tried is to wear pissing pants (sheath pants complete with drainage tube) under a all in one cat-suit with it’s own sheath. The only holes in this suit are eyes, nostril, mouth and a very small hole in the tip of the sheath that is just large enough to feed the pissing pant’s drainage tube through. The end of the tube is plugged with a valve and the whole bundle sits in a zip up pouch, which is part of the suit. When I need to pass water, I just unzip the pouch and extract my sheathed member, open the valve, point it into the toilet and relieve myself. If I am careful, it can be a successful and clean(ish) operation.
This sheath arrangement is one I “forced” myself to regularly wear over a several months. I say forced, as although it mechanically works fairly well, it is a little difficult to get used to wearing when I am so used to just being in a “normal” rubber suit. Two layers of close fitting rubber over my cock and balls, plus the pouch can feel restrictive and very difficult to ignore! Initially it was very challenging during the normal cycles of varying degrees of penis stiffness.
The rubber used to chafe and so it is more critical to get the correct amount of lubrication. Yet over lubrication (particularly with J-Lube) can lead to the total loss of that delicious rubbery sensation that I desired in the first place.
The other thing I found difficult to get used to was the feeling of my cock and balls being effectively free and outside the restriction of the main suit, albeit in their own triple layer of rubber. The outer pouch is quite lose fitting and do not support my bits. Being more used to them being squished snuggly in a suit, along with the rest of me, it can feel like they are dangling unprotected (which they not really).
Also there is less to “push against” to get that erotic rubber feel flowing across my sex organ. With a normal suit, my penis sits with my body on one side of it and the tightly stretched rubber on the other. With every slight movement of my lower abdomen, hips or legs, the three surfaces move relative to each other to produce the delightful sensation I imagine only male rubber fetishists experience. This can be the intense erotic feel when after instant gratification, or for those of us who like to spend extended periods in their rubber skin, it can also be the gentle but regular sensual reminder of their rubber encased existence.
With the rubber sheathed option, there is the constant distracting sensation of the rubber constriction, but the penis often does not automatically get the same rubber rubbing across you skin feeling I get for free when just living in a normal suit. To get something like that you need to actively engage in a sexual act – either by plugging your rubber member into a sexual partner or masturbation. Both these are great but intense and so hardly a lifestyle.
In fact the intense feeling of being plumbed was part of the challenge which made it more taxing for me to wear for long periods. It was ironic that the plumbing that could help me in my ambition to be totally sealed in rubber for longer, and more completely, was actually initially difficult to handle beyond a brief sexual experience in rubber.
To get to something like the same gentle level of constant rubber stimulation, I often wear yet another layer of thin rubber briefs over the top of everything. Adjusting the fit of these rubber briefs can fine-tune the whole experience.
Eventually I just about got used to regularly wearing the kit. And then I moved on to wearing the pissing pants inside a neck entry rubber suit (diving dry suit style) which meant I had to plumb the pants to a collection bag in the leg of the suit. This bag was in turn plumbed up through the suit to allow it to be periodically emptied. This was all done to achieve a very “sealed in” feel.
More on this, some different pants and other plumbing in a future post.
Love to hear on feedback and tips on this or any other issue related to living in rubber.
Sealed
I have tried in-dwelling catheters, which are the ultimate as far as a plumbing solution. However, as you will see from earlier posts, they are not suitable for me. As I may be plumbed all day every day, the solution has to work when I ejaculate, and with in-dwelling catheters I have always experienced pain during climax and discomfort after. I know others have been OK, but guess I am just unlucky.
The most simple solution I have tried is to wear pissing pants (sheath pants complete with drainage tube) under a all in one cat-suit with it’s own sheath. The only holes in this suit are eyes, nostril, mouth and a very small hole in the tip of the sheath that is just large enough to feed the pissing pant’s drainage tube through. The end of the tube is plugged with a valve and the whole bundle sits in a zip up pouch, which is part of the suit. When I need to pass water, I just unzip the pouch and extract my sheathed member, open the valve, point it into the toilet and relieve myself. If I am careful, it can be a successful and clean(ish) operation.
This sheath arrangement is one I “forced” myself to regularly wear over a several months. I say forced, as although it mechanically works fairly well, it is a little difficult to get used to wearing when I am so used to just being in a “normal” rubber suit. Two layers of close fitting rubber over my cock and balls, plus the pouch can feel restrictive and very difficult to ignore! Initially it was very challenging during the normal cycles of varying degrees of penis stiffness.
The rubber used to chafe and so it is more critical to get the correct amount of lubrication. Yet over lubrication (particularly with J-Lube) can lead to the total loss of that delicious rubbery sensation that I desired in the first place.
The other thing I found difficult to get used to was the feeling of my cock and balls being effectively free and outside the restriction of the main suit, albeit in their own triple layer of rubber. The outer pouch is quite lose fitting and do not support my bits. Being more used to them being squished snuggly in a suit, along with the rest of me, it can feel like they are dangling unprotected (which they not really).
Also there is less to “push against” to get that erotic rubber feel flowing across my sex organ. With a normal suit, my penis sits with my body on one side of it and the tightly stretched rubber on the other. With every slight movement of my lower abdomen, hips or legs, the three surfaces move relative to each other to produce the delightful sensation I imagine only male rubber fetishists experience. This can be the intense erotic feel when after instant gratification, or for those of us who like to spend extended periods in their rubber skin, it can also be the gentle but regular sensual reminder of their rubber encased existence.
With the rubber sheathed option, there is the constant distracting sensation of the rubber constriction, but the penis often does not automatically get the same rubber rubbing across you skin feeling I get for free when just living in a normal suit. To get something like that you need to actively engage in a sexual act – either by plugging your rubber member into a sexual partner or masturbation. Both these are great but intense and so hardly a lifestyle.
In fact the intense feeling of being plumbed was part of the challenge which made it more taxing for me to wear for long periods. It was ironic that the plumbing that could help me in my ambition to be totally sealed in rubber for longer, and more completely, was actually initially difficult to handle beyond a brief sexual experience in rubber.
To get to something like the same gentle level of constant rubber stimulation, I often wear yet another layer of thin rubber briefs over the top of everything. Adjusting the fit of these rubber briefs can fine-tune the whole experience.
Eventually I just about got used to regularly wearing the kit. And then I moved on to wearing the pissing pants inside a neck entry rubber suit (diving dry suit style) which meant I had to plumb the pants to a collection bag in the leg of the suit. This bag was in turn plumbed up through the suit to allow it to be periodically emptied. This was all done to achieve a very “sealed in” feel.
More on this, some different pants and other plumbing in a future post.
Love to hear on feedback and tips on this or any other issue related to living in rubber.
Sealed
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