Blackie (& all),
Chlorination would certainly help with your elaborate / extensive gear. Particularly with items that are worn close to the skin. I don't know if chlorination aids getting into subsequent layers as I have not tried that. I can say that there is still fairly hard to get (disposable) non-chlorinated black surgical gloves over my chlorinated suite gloves (this is an advantage once on as they stay put).
The chlorination process is fairly unpleasant and I would be interested in less aggressive methods. The problem I had was with the volume of chlorine gas released in a short period. As far as I can see, short emersion times are not a prerequisite - so a slower reaction should work just as well. In fact a slower process would help with difficult items which require turning inside out.
One thing I would like to try is to add diluted acid in stages to slow things down. Some say that a 24 - 48 hour soak in bleach works just as well - but leaves a stronger bleach smell for longer. I would worry about leaving it in for that long as the bleach would have time to soak into the latex (which is slightly porous) and effect it. Having said that, I have soaked latex for 3 hours without any ill effects. Like you say, bleach is great for cleaning up heavily "used" latex anyway...
Be v. interested in your experiences.
Been reading your blog (& posts elsewhere) extensively. Your approach is different from mine. Your experiences seem more intense and physically demanding. Although my lifestyle is often physically and mentally taxing - I usually try to structure my sessions, and in fact whole life, to make it easy as I can to stay in rubber for as long as possible. You deliberately seem to go out of your way to make it as challenging as possible "in there" - putting yourself into hot locations, places where you have to walk long distances, situations where you cannot easily control the experience - and then manage to stay sealed up for hours and hours in many layers of thick heavy duty latex. Respect! No wonder it sometimes takes you a few days to recover...
Different though the approach is, I can see where you are coming from. Your tales are of pushing your personal limits and endurance, and are certainly "hot" (both senses). To me it seems like a submissive agenda, almost as if you are submitting to the rubber. I admire the dedication and perseverance in your chosen life style.
I haven’t perfected my breathing apparatus yet, so cannot claim to be wearing it all the time, but my lifestyle of rubber TE with frequent sessions of electro stim, poppers, rubbery orgasms and breath play is fairly fantastic! Like I said, my dedication to my lifestyle can take a heavy toll, but chlorination is just one of the things that can help with the burden.
Xvious & all,
Finding a reason to get out of my (chlorinated) rubber is starting to become more and more of a challenge now the weather here in the UK has dropped back to the low 20s.
It used to be a challenge to stay in for just a few hours... Partly for physically difficulties, but mainly because there were so many things I wanted to do that were incompatible with wearing rubber.
Over time, I have found methods & processes to cope with many of the physical limitations and I have adjusted quite a few things in my personal life to make it easier to find the time to stay encased in latex for longer.
Now, I find that being out of latex is LESS comfortable both physically and mentally than being totally encased. Time out of latex now feels physically strange and have often found I have the thought “this is a waste of my time” nagging away at the back of my mind. Relaxing and sleeping out of rubber is often a challenge now. This all seems to get worse, the longer I am out of my normal latex suit. It’s like I have developed a dependency wearing rubber and/or for my fetish lifestyle – or maybe I have even a mild addiction…
Up until now I have been “saved” by my remaining work travel commitments – where I had to be on the client’s site, I am only able to wear latex while not at work. There has been a fair bit of working away since late spring, but on the horizon, I can see that I am probably going to land a huge bit of work which can largely be done from my home office – and therefore I will have one less reason for not achieving my desired lifestyle. This period of constant home working should coincide with lower temperatures so making the wearing of rubber even easier…
Strangely, I feel slightly apprehensive as well as excited about this (prospective) longer lifestyle experiment. What if my fetish lifestyle dependency becomes pathological? I am not worried about the physical effects, but how much of a mental grip will it get? Will I be able to “handle it” and be able and willing to re-enter the “normal” world at the end of the project? In (say) 6 moths, would I be able to deal with needing to spend 8 hours a day “unsealed” and without my various fetish “supports”?
Sealed
Thursday, July 28, 2005
Thursday, July 21, 2005
Thursday, 21 July 2005 - Forget talc and lubes?
The claim is “Forget talc and lubes, chlorination of your rubber items could be the way to go…”. The question I set out to discover was does it work and is it worth the bother? After all, I was quite happy using my particular brand of Silicone…
Chlorination – what’s that? Well it’s a DIY chemical process to give your latex clothes a “non-stick” surface. The process is described elsewhere, so I will concentrate on reviewing the outcome of the process.
I carried out the process on a Cocoon neck entry latex suit with attached gloves and feet and I also processed a mask. Once processed they were very clean and smelt more like a swimming baths than rubber. The chlorine smell is not overpowering even when wearing, just clean a smell which does seem be fading.
Then the feel test... On touching the surface with my fingers, I did notice it being slightly different - sort of silkier. I am not sure what I was expecting but it did not feel dramatically different and still felt very "rubbery".
However, then I tried on the suit and – unbelievable! It’s going to be difficult to describe the experience in words, but the practical upshot is that putting on a cat suit is EASIER than putting on a pair of cotton jeans. Pulling up the legs, I was reminded a little of the feeling of pulling on lycra / spandex. Chlorinated rubber just glides over the skin (as long as both are reasonably dry) with zero resistance.
There is an important time saving here. Even with the practice of wearing rubber almost daily for years it normally takes me some time to get into my outfit. There is carefully applying just enough lube to just the right places in the suit, then doing the same to myself. As I use minimal lube, there is then a careful process of easing myself into the suit so as not to strain or damage the suit (which becomes more important when you are wearing your rubber daily for long periods). Sometimes the are some “gymnastics” needed towards the end. Once on, I then normally have to spend the first few minutes, tweaking the fit to ensure the fit is comfortable around the areas of stretch and sensitive areas. With a chlorinated suit, you just pull it on and zip up and the suit sorts itself out in the first few minutes while you walk around and move about. When you come to take off a chlorinated suit, there is no lube to wash off or get dust stuck to. Usually we are talking no more than a quick wash under the shower if you got it dirty and leave to dry.
This time saving has an important physiological effect. Putting on chlorinated rubber is no longer a chore and something to plan. It can be a snap decision. It’s no more taxing than any other clothes. Several cycles of changes to and from mundane clothes are possible as and when needed. I have noticed another side effect – so far my suit does not leave the faint rubber odour on my body that others can sometimes detect. Not sure if this is a permanent effect, but at the moment it does mean I don’t need to shower after each and every change if otherwise clean and pushed for time.
What’s it feel like to wear? Wearing it actually feels better than normal, particularly at first, as you don't have talc or lube getting in on the act. Just you and your dry-feeling rubber. The garment hangs differently and even sounds a little different.
At first the latex just glides over your body like silk. Frictionless. It’s almost like you are not wearing rubber at all – but some sort of stretch material. However, after a time, this effect slowly fades as moisture levels increase in the suit. As this happens, the suit starts to feel more rubber and a little stickier (like normal rubber). This is not a bad thing as after a time you want to be reminded that you are wearing rubber after all.
What is it like for longer periods / latex lifestyle? Well I haven’t had the opportunity to wear the suit for very long periods yet – a single 8 hours session has been the max so far. But even for this relatively short period I can tell it has only enhanced the experience. At the end of the session, I felt as comfortable as when I entered the suit.
I can see it being particularly relevant to those embarking on a lifestyle of extended, constant or near-constant latex encasement. Finding lubes that are compatible with such a lifestyle and their skin can be a challenge for some. Also keeping clean can be challenge. The time and effort involved every time you need to change can also be a trial with non-chlorinated latex.
Problems with chlorinated latex? Well the initial process is unpleasant and nerve racking but on the other hand it is quick and once done its supposed to last the lifetime of article. Other down sides… Well it can affect the finish - and other than that… well if there are any I will let you know!
At the moment, the only problem is finding any reason that I would want to take off my suit…. And finding the time and opportunity to stay in there for longer… And I am making some progress with this issue too!
Sealed
Chlorination – what’s that? Well it’s a DIY chemical process to give your latex clothes a “non-stick” surface. The process is described elsewhere, so I will concentrate on reviewing the outcome of the process.
I carried out the process on a Cocoon neck entry latex suit with attached gloves and feet and I also processed a mask. Once processed they were very clean and smelt more like a swimming baths than rubber. The chlorine smell is not overpowering even when wearing, just clean a smell which does seem be fading.
Then the feel test... On touching the surface with my fingers, I did notice it being slightly different - sort of silkier. I am not sure what I was expecting but it did not feel dramatically different and still felt very "rubbery".
However, then I tried on the suit and – unbelievable! It’s going to be difficult to describe the experience in words, but the practical upshot is that putting on a cat suit is EASIER than putting on a pair of cotton jeans. Pulling up the legs, I was reminded a little of the feeling of pulling on lycra / spandex. Chlorinated rubber just glides over the skin (as long as both are reasonably dry) with zero resistance.
There is an important time saving here. Even with the practice of wearing rubber almost daily for years it normally takes me some time to get into my outfit. There is carefully applying just enough lube to just the right places in the suit, then doing the same to myself. As I use minimal lube, there is then a careful process of easing myself into the suit so as not to strain or damage the suit (which becomes more important when you are wearing your rubber daily for long periods). Sometimes the are some “gymnastics” needed towards the end. Once on, I then normally have to spend the first few minutes, tweaking the fit to ensure the fit is comfortable around the areas of stretch and sensitive areas. With a chlorinated suit, you just pull it on and zip up and the suit sorts itself out in the first few minutes while you walk around and move about. When you come to take off a chlorinated suit, there is no lube to wash off or get dust stuck to. Usually we are talking no more than a quick wash under the shower if you got it dirty and leave to dry.
This time saving has an important physiological effect. Putting on chlorinated rubber is no longer a chore and something to plan. It can be a snap decision. It’s no more taxing than any other clothes. Several cycles of changes to and from mundane clothes are possible as and when needed. I have noticed another side effect – so far my suit does not leave the faint rubber odour on my body that others can sometimes detect. Not sure if this is a permanent effect, but at the moment it does mean I don’t need to shower after each and every change if otherwise clean and pushed for time.
What’s it feel like to wear? Wearing it actually feels better than normal, particularly at first, as you don't have talc or lube getting in on the act. Just you and your dry-feeling rubber. The garment hangs differently and even sounds a little different.
At first the latex just glides over your body like silk. Frictionless. It’s almost like you are not wearing rubber at all – but some sort of stretch material. However, after a time, this effect slowly fades as moisture levels increase in the suit. As this happens, the suit starts to feel more rubber and a little stickier (like normal rubber). This is not a bad thing as after a time you want to be reminded that you are wearing rubber after all.
What is it like for longer periods / latex lifestyle? Well I haven’t had the opportunity to wear the suit for very long periods yet – a single 8 hours session has been the max so far. But even for this relatively short period I can tell it has only enhanced the experience. At the end of the session, I felt as comfortable as when I entered the suit.
I can see it being particularly relevant to those embarking on a lifestyle of extended, constant or near-constant latex encasement. Finding lubes that are compatible with such a lifestyle and their skin can be a challenge for some. Also keeping clean can be challenge. The time and effort involved every time you need to change can also be a trial with non-chlorinated latex.
Problems with chlorinated latex? Well the initial process is unpleasant and nerve racking but on the other hand it is quick and once done its supposed to last the lifetime of article. Other down sides… Well it can affect the finish - and other than that… well if there are any I will let you know!
At the moment, the only problem is finding any reason that I would want to take off my suit…. And finding the time and opportunity to stay in there for longer… And I am making some progress with this issue too!
Sealed
Monday, July 04, 2005
Monday, July 04, 2005
One of the aims of this blog (along with promoting the idea that latex can be worn everyday) is to communicate with people into bag play and other re-breathing and breath control scenes. There is less on this subject on the web than other kinks, possibly due to the legitimate safety concerns, but possibly also because it still taboo. Lack of communication due to taboos can make people feel isolated in their obsessions, so I would like to openly declaring that I am one of the many people who have an obsession with breath play, and occasionally describing what I get up to on my blog ad how I feel about the experiences…
A projects I have been working on is a re-breathing kit that I can use while working (or surfing) on the computer. I wanted something that can control the amount of fresh air entering the otherwise closed system with some accuracy. It would then be possible to set it up for fairly “light” amounts of re-breathing which would be comfortable for prolonged periods (like hours).
Previous crude configurations usually involved all-over face masks or bags. The trouble here was the inevitable fogging up which made reading impossible. But lessons from these systems would prove useful in a designing system where mouth and nose are contained separately from goggled eyes.
I have found that there are two possible routes. The easiest is to design a closed re-breathing setup with a small opening that relies on the pressure/vacuum from the lungs to expel a small amount of the total volume and allow a small amount of clean air to be drawn in. The crudest example of this is a plastic bag to be placed over the head, drawn around the neck with a loop of cord, drawn to the required size with a toggle grip (a bit like a climber’s stuff-sac). The toggle grip can then be adjusted over the first few minutes to adjust the intensity of the effect. A good starting point for which is to have the neck cord set to about the size where it can be pulled to be a lose fit when drawn up to the chin. When the cord is allowed to settle around the neck, it will result in the bag having a fairly generous gap around it’s collar, allowing air to gradually makes it’s way into and out of the bag on each breath. The point here for me is not to set off a frantic session, but to adjust the cord to produce a slight but noticeable shift in breathing patterns. Fine tuning allows for hours of fun…
The other route is to have systems where a set amount of fresh air is pumped mechanically into an otherwise closed system, to which I am attached to. Again, a simple example of which is an electrical air pump or compressor delivering air via a tube which is attached to a plastic bag which is placed over the head and sealed around the neck. In such a setup, consideration has to be made to how a controlled amount of stale air can be allowed to escape from the system to make room for the pumped fresh air (for example a thin exhaust tube) and stop excess pressure developing. One advantage of these pumped systems is they can be more consistent and potentially more controllable. Good design can ensure that the fresh and stale air are sufficiently well mixed, well away from the face, that you get a consistent blend of O2 and C02. It is usually easier to achieve consistently the same result from one session to the next than with non-pumped systems. Down sides are the necessity of carrying breathing equipment around and ensuring its reliability.
For the purposes of this experiment, I have chosen a pumped system. I am still at the prototype stage, but this is what I am using…
Air is supplied by a battery operated air pump. This delivers enough air volume, but is not capable producing dangerous pressures. This is delivered along a medium/large bore pipe to a rubber bladder (the same sort you see on medical anaesthetic apparatus). The pumps pipe attaches to the bladder via a union with wide bore pipe – which is my breathing pipe. A third thin bore pipe is connected to the bladder via a small hole made at the far end of the bladder. The thin rubber pipe prevents excess pressure in the bladder by allowing some of the stale air out. It also allows the inevitable fluid build up from condensation to drain out. All the connections to the bladder are glued and camped securely and airtight.
The breathing tube connects the system to a securely attached mask. It is important for me that the system is deliberately well secured and not too easy or quick to remove. It’s all part of the fetish that I am reliant on the mechanism. It’s not that the system could never be made safe in case of a sudden failure, but that it would not be too quick and easy to whip the system off at whim.
At the moment, the mask is improvised arrangement of a face mask made secure by food grade thick cling film (AKA food wrap?), forming a seal around the nose and mouth. I am looking to improve this part of the arrangement. The film in turn, is held in place by tape. I usually wear a rubber hood over the whole head, which has openings for the eyes and a hole where the mouth should be where the breathing tube exits. I often wear goggle over the top of this so that there is not a single millimetre of me exposed to the outside air.
What’s it feel like to wear? Amazing. You have to start up the pump first, so you hardly notice it whirring away by the time you are “fully dressed” (by this stage I would always be already wearing an all-over latex suit). As soon as you finish sealing up the mask you are aware of that the air is getting staler. You need faith in your system (to provide sufficient air) at this point, as your senses tell you that you need fresh air. Past experience with this kit tells me that if I make it through the initial period when my body is adjusting to the changes, that there will be plenty of air. Keeping calm and being very careful not to exert myself, I proceed with the last stages of sealing myself up. Once done, I find somewhere to chill out while my body makes the necessary adjustments to be able to breathe this mix. This usually only takes a few minutes, but can take much longer depending on what the time of day is, my physical & mental state etc. The usual cycle during this period is an increase in speed of respiration and heart rate Also there is a slight desperateness to the breathing and slight feelings alarm – and these last two symptoms are the ones which I am aiming to illuminate as much as possible during the chill out. With this particular set up, this does not take long and the respiration and heart beat are not too far behind in returning to near normal.
Once I have adjusted, the set up provides lots of breathable air, so the physical effects are mild compared to normal bag play. There is a large psychological effect though, as I am now completely sealed up and totally reliant on the system to supply my air. Although it should be possible to cut my way out fairly quickly in an emergency, this is not something I would like to have to do. With no direct contact with the outside world, I become very aware of the senses I have and the sound of my own slightly stained breathing is dominant - and I find it compellingly exciting…
By now (spurred on by a well documented strong physiological suffocation reflex) I will probably be in possession of a rock hard erection and increased (often desperate) libido. Controlling this (usually welcome) by-product will be the next big challenge.
Improvements? Would like to have better control pump of the pumps output to better fine tune things. Would like to improve the endurance of the system – the battery life is the limiting factor at the moment – the actual time depends on battery make, but normal batteries last less than 2 hours while the best batteries last much longer (seems to be at least twice as long). Would like to improve redundancy - in case one pump/battery fails it would be good to have a hot standby. A even wider bore pipe between the mouth and bladder would be good, so that rapid breathing is effortless.
Sealed
A projects I have been working on is a re-breathing kit that I can use while working (or surfing) on the computer. I wanted something that can control the amount of fresh air entering the otherwise closed system with some accuracy. It would then be possible to set it up for fairly “light” amounts of re-breathing which would be comfortable for prolonged periods (like hours).
Previous crude configurations usually involved all-over face masks or bags. The trouble here was the inevitable fogging up which made reading impossible. But lessons from these systems would prove useful in a designing system where mouth and nose are contained separately from goggled eyes.
I have found that there are two possible routes. The easiest is to design a closed re-breathing setup with a small opening that relies on the pressure/vacuum from the lungs to expel a small amount of the total volume and allow a small amount of clean air to be drawn in. The crudest example of this is a plastic bag to be placed over the head, drawn around the neck with a loop of cord, drawn to the required size with a toggle grip (a bit like a climber’s stuff-sac). The toggle grip can then be adjusted over the first few minutes to adjust the intensity of the effect. A good starting point for which is to have the neck cord set to about the size where it can be pulled to be a lose fit when drawn up to the chin. When the cord is allowed to settle around the neck, it will result in the bag having a fairly generous gap around it’s collar, allowing air to gradually makes it’s way into and out of the bag on each breath. The point here for me is not to set off a frantic session, but to adjust the cord to produce a slight but noticeable shift in breathing patterns. Fine tuning allows for hours of fun…
The other route is to have systems where a set amount of fresh air is pumped mechanically into an otherwise closed system, to which I am attached to. Again, a simple example of which is an electrical air pump or compressor delivering air via a tube which is attached to a plastic bag which is placed over the head and sealed around the neck. In such a setup, consideration has to be made to how a controlled amount of stale air can be allowed to escape from the system to make room for the pumped fresh air (for example a thin exhaust tube) and stop excess pressure developing. One advantage of these pumped systems is they can be more consistent and potentially more controllable. Good design can ensure that the fresh and stale air are sufficiently well mixed, well away from the face, that you get a consistent blend of O2 and C02. It is usually easier to achieve consistently the same result from one session to the next than with non-pumped systems. Down sides are the necessity of carrying breathing equipment around and ensuring its reliability.
For the purposes of this experiment, I have chosen a pumped system. I am still at the prototype stage, but this is what I am using…
Air is supplied by a battery operated air pump. This delivers enough air volume, but is not capable producing dangerous pressures. This is delivered along a medium/large bore pipe to a rubber bladder (the same sort you see on medical anaesthetic apparatus). The pumps pipe attaches to the bladder via a union with wide bore pipe – which is my breathing pipe. A third thin bore pipe is connected to the bladder via a small hole made at the far end of the bladder. The thin rubber pipe prevents excess pressure in the bladder by allowing some of the stale air out. It also allows the inevitable fluid build up from condensation to drain out. All the connections to the bladder are glued and camped securely and airtight.
The breathing tube connects the system to a securely attached mask. It is important for me that the system is deliberately well secured and not too easy or quick to remove. It’s all part of the fetish that I am reliant on the mechanism. It’s not that the system could never be made safe in case of a sudden failure, but that it would not be too quick and easy to whip the system off at whim.
At the moment, the mask is improvised arrangement of a face mask made secure by food grade thick cling film (AKA food wrap?), forming a seal around the nose and mouth. I am looking to improve this part of the arrangement. The film in turn, is held in place by tape. I usually wear a rubber hood over the whole head, which has openings for the eyes and a hole where the mouth should be where the breathing tube exits. I often wear goggle over the top of this so that there is not a single millimetre of me exposed to the outside air.
What’s it feel like to wear? Amazing. You have to start up the pump first, so you hardly notice it whirring away by the time you are “fully dressed” (by this stage I would always be already wearing an all-over latex suit). As soon as you finish sealing up the mask you are aware of that the air is getting staler. You need faith in your system (to provide sufficient air) at this point, as your senses tell you that you need fresh air. Past experience with this kit tells me that if I make it through the initial period when my body is adjusting to the changes, that there will be plenty of air. Keeping calm and being very careful not to exert myself, I proceed with the last stages of sealing myself up. Once done, I find somewhere to chill out while my body makes the necessary adjustments to be able to breathe this mix. This usually only takes a few minutes, but can take much longer depending on what the time of day is, my physical & mental state etc. The usual cycle during this period is an increase in speed of respiration and heart rate Also there is a slight desperateness to the breathing and slight feelings alarm – and these last two symptoms are the ones which I am aiming to illuminate as much as possible during the chill out. With this particular set up, this does not take long and the respiration and heart beat are not too far behind in returning to near normal.
Once I have adjusted, the set up provides lots of breathable air, so the physical effects are mild compared to normal bag play. There is a large psychological effect though, as I am now completely sealed up and totally reliant on the system to supply my air. Although it should be possible to cut my way out fairly quickly in an emergency, this is not something I would like to have to do. With no direct contact with the outside world, I become very aware of the senses I have and the sound of my own slightly stained breathing is dominant - and I find it compellingly exciting…
By now (spurred on by a well documented strong physiological suffocation reflex) I will probably be in possession of a rock hard erection and increased (often desperate) libido. Controlling this (usually welcome) by-product will be the next big challenge.
Improvements? Would like to have better control pump of the pumps output to better fine tune things. Would like to improve the endurance of the system – the battery life is the limiting factor at the moment – the actual time depends on battery make, but normal batteries last less than 2 hours while the best batteries last much longer (seems to be at least twice as long). Would like to improve redundancy - in case one pump/battery fails it would be good to have a hot standby. A even wider bore pipe between the mouth and bladder would be good, so that rapid breathing is effortless.
Sealed
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