Well today’s trial involved fine tuning the sheath flushing pants. This has only been half successful. I have refined the fit so that it reduces the chance of coming out of the sheath,
by using various straps and bands by that hold the base of the sheath against my body. This is important to me as I have no access to reinsert myself once in my suit. This aspect whent OK.
This was all linked up to the collecting bag and bag emptying plumbing I proved recently during the catheter trials.
However, some hours ago I suffered a “plumbing malfunction” and I find myself here committed to being locked in my full TE suit until tonight, with several pints of urine sloshing about…
It’s not that I am in any discomfort, but it’s not ideal! The suit is totally water-tight so from the outside I look (and smell) as if nothing has happened. Urine feels just like warm water (or loads of sweat) has accumulated in the suit. None of these r ideal, but not the end of the earth. From past experience I know I am probably unlikely to suffer any skin irritation from a day or so soaked, as long as I don’t repeat the experience too often.
There is a perverse side to my nature that can even see the fun side to the situation and I certainly intend to play on the submissive in me to make the most of it. But all said and done, I would sooner be able to stay dry and am determined to achieve this end.
As I am now more limited in what I can do, I have had some time to analyse this issues. The main problem is the fit of the sheath and the forces of gravity. When erect, the sheath fits reasonably well but you find yourself urinating up hill. When flaccid, you have some gravity on your side, but the fit is terrible. In a suit it is difficult to arrange for the pipe runs to always be below the bladder & penis and difficult to avoid kinks and restrictions.
Now some people are able to get sheath pants to work well for them, but my personal preferences are making things more challenging. Most have access to their sheathed penis, to adjust the fit and arrange for downward flow when pissing – while I do not (neck entry suit). My sheath is totally inaccessible and prone to being squished in the wrong position.
Solutions? Well obviously I could go back to suits with zip access below the waist, so I could arrange things just before using the flushing sheath pants. I could go back to suits with built in sheath for the same reason. I also have seen other designs of pants that are drained from the lowest point (so I am not fighting gravity). Not going to make a snap decision today, but surf for inspiration. In the mean time I am going to slowly think this over while waiting for the time when I can get out of this sodden suit, bath and get into something dry…
Squelch!
Sealed
Monday, August 15, 2005
Friday, August 12, 2005
Friday, 12 August 2005 - Catheterisation – Suitable for Rubber Enclosed People?
(answers for Dark in comments section of last post…)
If Catheterisation is something that interests you, I think you should try hard to find time to read this entry to the end. It could save you a lot of bother…
I have never considered medical equipment part of my fetish, but faced with the realities of being sealed up in rubber for hours/days, they start to appeal where they are conceivably a means to an end.
BTW My suit of choice is a neck entry type with no zips or other access to the groin area - making it wonderfully comfortable and water proof / air tight, but this does give rise to the obvious difficulties in body function. I do own suits with 3 way - zip access etc, but I find there are down sides to these including:
1. Being less comfortable (zip runs by sensitive region and is not as stretchy/soft as latex)
2. Feeling less “sealed” (suits with no zips make you feel almost vacuum packed)
3. If you do get to hot, you can end up leaving puddles of sweat everywhere!
4. Because zips run over an are requiring bends / stretch and of item 1 (above), I find that the zip is under strain and is usually the first point of failure in a suit.
My trials with urinating sheath pants from fetish shops and condom-type catheters from medical suppliers have so far been unsatisfactory. Neither could handle the change in shape and size over prolong wearing that is inherent in normal male cycles of erection and flaccidity. So here I am trying out a Foley Cath.
I have the catheter linked to a small collecting bag (via non-return) inside my suit; this in turn is plumed up to exit via my neck, so it can be pumped empty.
Insertion (with lube) was unpleasant but not painful. It chose the smallest diameter size (FG12) to make it easy to insert and wear. The cath was a Bardo-matic – which means it is easy to deploy self retaining balloon that lives in the bladder.
Wearing it, I could not say it felt very comfortable. Not really what you could call uncomfortable, but for me “almost uncomfortable”.
Function worked very well. The flow into the bag was slow but kept my bladder completely empty. I managed to fit all this plumbing inside the skin-tight suit and yet keep it secured / comfortable. When there was sufficient fluid in the collection bag, it was very easy to empty via the second pipe (I used simple symphonic method in this trial).
Now, like I said before, I didn’t embark on these trial for any other reason than for the potential to solve some mundane practical issues associated with my chosen kink, but what do you know – I found there was a kind of thrill to all this. It felt quite perverse (even by my own standards), but I found myself liking things about my catheterisation. I really liked the losing of all control of my bladder functions and effectively handing control to my suit’s plumbing equipment. It literally felt like a release at some level. All the plumbing pipes added to a sort of cyborg type mental image – the new kit enhancing the idea of an amalgamation between body and fetish (suit).
In the interests of the trial I had to try out everything I wanted to be able to do while wearing the cath. Moving about was no problem. The cath stayed secure and did not limit my ability to move around at all. The rest of the plumbing was only really a first lash up – but actually felt pretty good when sitting/lying/standing/stretching/walking and stayed securely in position (I had augmented the supplied rubber belts). In fact the little resistance or pull offered by the kit was just enough to make you aware of your situation, which I found weirdly stimulating.
Next was the obvious erection test and that was the end of the good news. On the plus side, cycles of erection did not present any problems to the function of the cath, which stayed secure and functional. But I couldn’t say I liked the sensation. It wasn’t painful, but was very noticeable and verging on unpleasant. The masochist in me could get something out of it – and I found it could actually be a stimulating experience, but it was not the sort of thing I would like to endure every time I had an erection. Still, it didn’t stop me getting a thrill in the short term, so the test had to proceed to obvious climax….
DON’T TRY THIS AT HOME!!!! I knew there was some risk here before I started as, with a catheter in the urethra, there is nowhere for the semen to go (this is one reason why I chose the smallest diameter). Anyway - absolute explosion of agony. Some have said it enhances the experience, others have agreed with me – basically never again. Again, those into pain may get something out of this – but I would expect that this amount of agony is associated with real risk of damage.
Some semen did make it’s way past the cath, but the back pressure with all the fluid being suddenly being released was just too much for my kit to handle.
Luckily, the cath was easy to remove by deflating the retainer with a syringe and carefully withdrawing (no resistance felt at all). But this was not the end of the pain.
Urinating for a few hours after the experience was virtually too painful to consider. This actually did fade once I had successfully passed water. However, the initial sensation was unpleasant every time I urinated for the following 24 hours.
Summary
I tried this same experiment some 10 years ago with similar results. I spent the intervening time wondering if I had been unlucky the first time and building up the courage to try again. Now I know the truth - in-bladder catheters are not for me and will be more than a decode before I want to go there again!
Everyone is built differently and maybe I have a particularly sensitive or narrow urethra. Given how instantly I started getting a slightly unpleasant sensation, it is even possible that my urinary tract is allergic to latex (in which case there is always the silicone caths).
I could imagine some people may find Foley catheters comfortable to wear and even stimulating. However, I can’t see how anyone could comfortably or safely ejaculate without first removing the catheter.
Even if that were possible – Foley Catheter have their limitation and are only a partial solution. If the aim is to plumb away fluids so you can stay comfortably in your suit for extended periods, the Foley does not address the semen ejaculate. Admittedly this is less troublesome to an endurance rubberist than urine, but a perfect solution would deal with both.
For female rubberist the in-dwelling Foley really does offer some possibilities. Erections and ejaculation are obviously irrelevant here and I have heard some good reports. It probably would be worth considering as long as you take account of UTI issues associated with the shorter urethra and it’s proximity to unclean areas. Any female volunteers?!?! ;o)
Way forward?
On the plus side, the rest of the plumbing and collection worked a treat. I can easily see it being refined to a degree that would make it suitable and comfortable for constant wear every day. I just need a reliable & comfortable way getting stuff into the collection bag’s one way valve…
Next on the list for further consideration are proper medical appliances (e.g. McGuire Urinal), the Bioderm device and draining pants from fetish shops. Any feedback welcomed!
Sealed
If Catheterisation is something that interests you, I think you should try hard to find time to read this entry to the end. It could save you a lot of bother…
I have never considered medical equipment part of my fetish, but faced with the realities of being sealed up in rubber for hours/days, they start to appeal where they are conceivably a means to an end.
BTW My suit of choice is a neck entry type with no zips or other access to the groin area - making it wonderfully comfortable and water proof / air tight, but this does give rise to the obvious difficulties in body function. I do own suits with 3 way - zip access etc, but I find there are down sides to these including:
1. Being less comfortable (zip runs by sensitive region and is not as stretchy/soft as latex)
2. Feeling less “sealed” (suits with no zips make you feel almost vacuum packed)
3. If you do get to hot, you can end up leaving puddles of sweat everywhere!
4. Because zips run over an are requiring bends / stretch and of item 1 (above), I find that the zip is under strain and is usually the first point of failure in a suit.
My trials with urinating sheath pants from fetish shops and condom-type catheters from medical suppliers have so far been unsatisfactory. Neither could handle the change in shape and size over prolong wearing that is inherent in normal male cycles of erection and flaccidity. So here I am trying out a Foley Cath.
I have the catheter linked to a small collecting bag (via non-return) inside my suit; this in turn is plumed up to exit via my neck, so it can be pumped empty.
Insertion (with lube) was unpleasant but not painful. It chose the smallest diameter size (FG12) to make it easy to insert and wear. The cath was a Bardo-matic – which means it is easy to deploy self retaining balloon that lives in the bladder.
Wearing it, I could not say it felt very comfortable. Not really what you could call uncomfortable, but for me “almost uncomfortable”.
Function worked very well. The flow into the bag was slow but kept my bladder completely empty. I managed to fit all this plumbing inside the skin-tight suit and yet keep it secured / comfortable. When there was sufficient fluid in the collection bag, it was very easy to empty via the second pipe (I used simple symphonic method in this trial).
Now, like I said before, I didn’t embark on these trial for any other reason than for the potential to solve some mundane practical issues associated with my chosen kink, but what do you know – I found there was a kind of thrill to all this. It felt quite perverse (even by my own standards), but I found myself liking things about my catheterisation. I really liked the losing of all control of my bladder functions and effectively handing control to my suit’s plumbing equipment. It literally felt like a release at some level. All the plumbing pipes added to a sort of cyborg type mental image – the new kit enhancing the idea of an amalgamation between body and fetish (suit).
In the interests of the trial I had to try out everything I wanted to be able to do while wearing the cath. Moving about was no problem. The cath stayed secure and did not limit my ability to move around at all. The rest of the plumbing was only really a first lash up – but actually felt pretty good when sitting/lying/standing/stretching/walking and stayed securely in position (I had augmented the supplied rubber belts). In fact the little resistance or pull offered by the kit was just enough to make you aware of your situation, which I found weirdly stimulating.
Next was the obvious erection test and that was the end of the good news. On the plus side, cycles of erection did not present any problems to the function of the cath, which stayed secure and functional. But I couldn’t say I liked the sensation. It wasn’t painful, but was very noticeable and verging on unpleasant. The masochist in me could get something out of it – and I found it could actually be a stimulating experience, but it was not the sort of thing I would like to endure every time I had an erection. Still, it didn’t stop me getting a thrill in the short term, so the test had to proceed to obvious climax….
DON’T TRY THIS AT HOME!!!! I knew there was some risk here before I started as, with a catheter in the urethra, there is nowhere for the semen to go (this is one reason why I chose the smallest diameter). Anyway - absolute explosion of agony. Some have said it enhances the experience, others have agreed with me – basically never again. Again, those into pain may get something out of this – but I would expect that this amount of agony is associated with real risk of damage.
Some semen did make it’s way past the cath, but the back pressure with all the fluid being suddenly being released was just too much for my kit to handle.
Luckily, the cath was easy to remove by deflating the retainer with a syringe and carefully withdrawing (no resistance felt at all). But this was not the end of the pain.
Urinating for a few hours after the experience was virtually too painful to consider. This actually did fade once I had successfully passed water. However, the initial sensation was unpleasant every time I urinated for the following 24 hours.
Summary
I tried this same experiment some 10 years ago with similar results. I spent the intervening time wondering if I had been unlucky the first time and building up the courage to try again. Now I know the truth - in-bladder catheters are not for me and will be more than a decode before I want to go there again!
Everyone is built differently and maybe I have a particularly sensitive or narrow urethra. Given how instantly I started getting a slightly unpleasant sensation, it is even possible that my urinary tract is allergic to latex (in which case there is always the silicone caths).
I could imagine some people may find Foley catheters comfortable to wear and even stimulating. However, I can’t see how anyone could comfortably or safely ejaculate without first removing the catheter.
Even if that were possible – Foley Catheter have their limitation and are only a partial solution. If the aim is to plumb away fluids so you can stay comfortably in your suit for extended periods, the Foley does not address the semen ejaculate. Admittedly this is less troublesome to an endurance rubberist than urine, but a perfect solution would deal with both.
For female rubberist the in-dwelling Foley really does offer some possibilities. Erections and ejaculation are obviously irrelevant here and I have heard some good reports. It probably would be worth considering as long as you take account of UTI issues associated with the shorter urethra and it’s proximity to unclean areas. Any female volunteers?!?! ;o)
Way forward?
On the plus side, the rest of the plumbing and collection worked a treat. I can easily see it being refined to a degree that would make it suitable and comfortable for constant wear every day. I just need a reliable & comfortable way getting stuff into the collection bag’s one way valve…
Next on the list for further consideration are proper medical appliances (e.g. McGuire Urinal), the Bioderm device and draining pants from fetish shops. Any feedback welcomed!
Sealed
Tuesday, August 09, 2005
Tuesday, 09 August 2005 The Inspiration and Challenges of 24/7 Rubber Enclosed People (or 24 Hour REPs!)
Dark, your response was so wide ranging and comprehensive that it makes it a daunting to produce an adequately cogent, structured response…. But here goes nothing… For the others I apologise if we go a little deeper and long winded today, but my normal self gratifying superficial banality will return shortly ;o)
In examining the wearing rubber, there are the practicalities / challenges and then there are the positives aspects and thus inspiration we need to have the driving force to overcome the challenges. We better get some of the challenges out of the way first otherwise the motivations are merely theoretical.
Although interesting in the subject, I don’t feel I can contribute anything fundamental or staggeringly new on challenges of sociology or clothing politics (for want of a better name), partly because I generally only wear my fetish clothing in non-public manner and not for any “scene”, fashion or extroverted reasons.
Nevertheless in response to the assertion “rubber will never be mainstreamed for regular clothes because..” [comfort issues and fetish motives], I will say that “never” is long time! Some very strange things which are either uncomfortable and/or worn for (sometimes oblique, sometime overt) sexual motives have come to become mainstream fashion at one time or other. Things that would have been impractical or unthinkable right up to the time they suddenly became mainstream. At one end of the continuum you have (in the West) ever shorter skirts in the second half of the 20th century right, ever more dangerous high heel shoes, right through to body modification, which is routine and (to western eyes) extreme in some cultures (piercings, feet binding, neck rings). So I accept we are a way from any degree of rubber clothing being acceptable clothing in all situations, but I actually think this may change in time. Since my childhood I have seen it become acceptable for women dress more and more in “men’s clothes”, sporting short “men’s” haircuts and then there was the (near) fetish of the punk fashions that became widespread the late 70s.
How do I feel about it? Well it’s not going to affect my current activities, but yes I think it would be generally a good thing if people were not inhibited by society and able to wear anything that makes them feel good or allows them to express themselves. And, although it’s not what drives me, I think future generations of fetishist will owe the current trailblazers (e.g. Blackie and Latex Lady) a huge debt of gratitude when they feel at ease wearing latex in public.
That said, I do think that you are pretty much spot on in identifying the 3 fundamental aspect (or motivations) in wearing latex : physiological, social and psychological – although in examining the subject it is often difficult to talk about one without the other. For example, the impermeable nature of latex is equally applicable to physiological, social and psychological aspects wearing the material. You could put the argument that, for example, latex’s (often) figure hugging propensity, sensual nature, sexual “practicalities” and overtones all have physiological, social and psychological aspects. This is not to diminish the validity of examining all three aspects.
We all know there are challenges of latex lifestyle. The most obvious are the physical challenges and practicality of being totally sealed in an impermeable material for long periods. If we assume an aim of being as total encased in latex as possible, for extended periods, challenges would include:
- maintaining a safe and comfortable body temperature
- dealing with sudden changes in environmental temperature
- dealing with perspiration
- dealing with condensation (both in suite and on goggles / eye pieces)
- allowing for all the other body excretions
- providing mechanism for required nourishment
- having the desired access to breathable air
- ensuring the total enclosure kit is complete enough (to the desired level of encasement/bondage) while allowing the wearer to pursue any necessary activities.
- Avoid painful pressure sores after long periods.
- Ensuring that the suit does not impede blood flow to extremities while being sufficiently close fitting.
- Dealing with vitamin deficiency due to lack of sun-light on skin.
- Having some strategy to exercise enough to prevent atrophy and maintain a level of physical fitness while either not overheating while in latex or spending too long out of latex while exercising. For me this is the ultimate physical challenge….
A challengingly long list, but, if you take them one at a time, it is not that they are insurmountable; it’s just that they are challenges to be overcome. Some are much more difficult to deal with than others. They could be solved by engineering a way out, which might include throwing money at the problem or might mean a compromise in comfort v endurance v degree of encasement.
How an individual deals with the challenges may depend on the nature of their desire to be encased and on how long they are aiming to spend in latex. I don’t claim to have dealt with them all to the extent of making them all a non-issue in all circumstances, but I am merely on the road to finding successively more effective ways of coping with each challenge as and when I chose to increase the latex to non-latex ratio of my lifestyle (and the degree of my total enclosure).
While some of the challenges require a specific strategy, others require adaptation or familiarisation. For instance, I notice that when I visit very hot climates the locals have acclimatized and are not sweating as profusely as I am (despite common biological ancestry). The same is true in cold climates, at sea, at high altitudes, dry climates… Part of this may be strategy (to quote Coward, in some countries “…only mad dogs and English men go out in the mid day sun…”) but there is also an element of the body adapting to the new norm. It is my contention that, given the right “training”, the human body has the ability to adapt to a degree where it can noticeably perform to increase comfort levels when perusing the goal of a latex lifestyle.
Of course no amount of acclimatisation is going to be enough to overcome all these challenges in all situations. So the question is, are you looking to endure the worst the latex enclosure has to offer to satisfy a submissive desire? For some (like Blackie) the endurance is the motivation and a sweaty challenge is the aim. I can understand this and have sometimes deliberately gone for this and more in making life hell in rubber. But my current aim is to wear rubber for far longer periods than my skin could tolerate being regularly saturated with water and bodily waste, not to mention being uncomfortably hot / cold. I also want to be able to adequately function (e.g. work, play) while wearing latex and the key to this has to be to stay comfortable and (for me) above all stay as dry as physically possible.
So after taking what physical steps I can, my next step has been to adapt my routine behaviour in order to stay within the margins of what is practical with a rubber lifestyle. For me this means modifying my WHOLE lifestyle so that I can use my behaviour to control my metabolism (or my response to rubber encasement) and therefore my body temperature, perspiration and bodily functions. This is ongoing and being refined day by day. Some of it is controversial, others common sense. For example, avoiding some foodstuffs and stimulants that contain ingredients that increase your rate of perspiration, excretions, urination and general metabolism. Even the actual moment I chose to first get into latex is critical (time of day and what I was doing beforehand).
However, the most fundamental impact of a latex lifestyle is the pattern of behaviour that I find sustainable once in latex. On the positive side there are lots of things that I spend the bulk of my life doing that are totally possible while in latex TE, even if not quite as easy as when in vanilla. Much of my work is quite possible (basically thinking, using a computer, talking on the phone) and the bits that are not possible are mainly to do with how clients and fellow workers (society) would react to me where I to visit site in latex TE! Most other housebound activities are totally possible, including sleeping, eating, listening to music, reading and of course sex... And if this were all that I wanted to do, I am sure I would already be on course for 24/7 latex lifestyle…
And this is were it gets difficult for most of us. A decade ago I think I would have been more than willing to give up virtually all outside activities to achieve a latex lifestyle, if I had only had the courage, dedication and knowledge needed to attempt what everyone said was an impossible dream… Now I find that despite my best efforts (!) I have accumulated some of the usual vanilla interests and attachments that give me an extensive set of reasons to want to be out travelling, socialising or playing (backpacking, photography, and sailing). These activities are (often) impractical while in latex TE for either social or physical reasons.
So, my latex lifestyle is about dealing with the physical difficulties, finding the right balance, making sacrifices and taking control. If you are serious about a latex lifestyle you first need to think about how you are going to sustain yourself financially such that you get the opportunity to wear latex most/all the time. If you have an independent means or have a partner who will support you, that’s ideal! For the rest of us, you really have to take control of your career to give you the latex lifestyle and living standard you want. I am (currently) lucky as I took the necessary risks to become freelance long ago and now work mainly from home. Others will have to make their own tough decisions which make take years to accomplish. There is little I can do about the time the customer requires me to spend working on site, but the rest of my life is about the hard sacrifices I chose to make. I find that I cannot spend 24/7/365 days in latex and have great social, family and outdoor life (maybe others can). But given that I am truly dedicated to latex, I can endeavour to find the mix that gives me the least possible time out of latex while staying sane and happy.
To achieve a latex lifestyle I therefore now hit the biggest challenges. The physical stuff is almost the easiest to deal with – you just need to come up with a technique or strategy to deal with it. Ultimately, if you can’t do 23/7 everyday, do 20/7 - whatever the limitation, just find the limit and go for the max that is achievable. One day, one day off, Three days on, two off – whatever. But for me, when I have spent 48 to 72 hours continuously in rubber, it is often not my physical condition that makes me want to strip off but that I want / need to go achieve something out in the real world that would be impossible while dressed in rubber.
Just before I move on, Dark says “People such as LadyII, whose circumstances might allow this could attempt it...99.9999% of the rest of us it is impossible.”. I find it interesting that you accept that a lifestyle like is 100% achievable (I hope everyone is OK for me to round to 3 decimal places ;o) ) – many ruberists not only do not believe her, but think the whole idea of 24/7 is “impossible”. (Incidentally, I find the term 23/7 to be splitting hairs when you examine LadyII protocols). I have no idea if she is for real (and have no idea of how anyone could categorically prove it to my satisfaction) but am convinced from her writing and my experiences that a rubber lifestyle technically possible if very, very difficult. If she is for real, then she has shown unbelievable dedication as a submissive and rubberist. In fact if she cheated one whole day once a month, it would still be massively impressive to me.
I hope she is for real, and, while keeping an open mind, I actually chose to believe there is much more than an element of truth in here story, mainly as I can think of no motive for her to deceive that seems compatible with what we have grown to know of her character. If I was in her position I know the biggest challenge would be the social isolation – but we are told she has a constant companion, a very organised fetish master, a rubberist son and a circle of fetish and s/m oriented friends that they meets up with. Well if all that was true, the biggest physiological challenge (the “latex isolation” effect) wouldn’t be such an issue and suddenly the whole thing becomes believable to me.
Now for the motivation…. You certainly need a strong motive to find the necessary inspiration to even attempt a latex lifestyle.
Dark invented a term “platonic notion of enclosure...” - which sounds fascinating and would like to here more about…. I wonder if this is this linked to the transition from (instant) sexual gratification to the sensual experience that 24/7 REPs have reported?
To go into all the reasons for “the psychological need to enclose in rubber” now would make this already long entry unbearably long, but can agree there is probably lots of reasons for lots of people. Some that are less strong in me are the social counter culture stuff or (I think) a direct need to be perverse. I am not into this for peer approval (although not being alone does help!). Dark also mentions sexual need, sensual need and these seem more applicable to me.
I have one further (rather ill defined) theory to put forward. Motivations for some people to have alternative lifestyles, appearances, sexual behaviour (as well as physiological disorders!) is in some part due to a specific strong personal identify or body image issue that may be at odds with reality. How this stuff gets into your head I cannot say, but maybe some of us have a strong image of themselves that includes a latex covering. Being in a non-latex state would cause an unpleasing mismatch between the personal self image and reality. As for what aspect of the (idealized) self image would be missing, for some it might be the shiny appearance, the figure hugging appearance, the flattering/firming “hand” of skin tight rubber on the form, the sensual feel, the perverse mode, the loss of human identity, the objectification, the idea of being hermetically sealed, the feeling of being “the other”, the overtly kinky sexual association, the breath control associations of masks or even just the smell! For me I think it is all these thing in different measures and something more. My fetish really does include the love of what is obviously (to everyone else) an inanimate object. Some people have worshiped trees, rocks or fellows. This Looney is dedicated to the latex that gives me so much back and spending long periods in TE involves dedication and me making some sacrifices. All disturbingly common human behaviour patterns maybe...
Now the footnotes…
BTW – the powerful desire to strip off latex after sexual climax seems to be very common, but I can report that it is also eminently curable! I used to get around this by being physically locking in with no access to the key (!), but Latex Lady & others gave me the necessary encouragement and hints on how to overcome this and now I often don’t even get a slightest impulse to de-rubber. Overcoming this impulse really is possible – assuming you have at least the slightest interest in seeing what happens if you stay rubberier for a few hours longer….
BTW2 - One thing I didn’t deal with was the comment “and train your psyche to deal with the social issues.”… That’s because this is still work in progress for me!
Sealed
In examining the wearing rubber, there are the practicalities / challenges and then there are the positives aspects and thus inspiration we need to have the driving force to overcome the challenges. We better get some of the challenges out of the way first otherwise the motivations are merely theoretical.
Although interesting in the subject, I don’t feel I can contribute anything fundamental or staggeringly new on challenges of sociology or clothing politics (for want of a better name), partly because I generally only wear my fetish clothing in non-public manner and not for any “scene”, fashion or extroverted reasons.
Nevertheless in response to the assertion “rubber will never be mainstreamed for regular clothes because..” [comfort issues and fetish motives], I will say that “never” is long time! Some very strange things which are either uncomfortable and/or worn for (sometimes oblique, sometime overt) sexual motives have come to become mainstream fashion at one time or other. Things that would have been impractical or unthinkable right up to the time they suddenly became mainstream. At one end of the continuum you have (in the West) ever shorter skirts in the second half of the 20th century right, ever more dangerous high heel shoes, right through to body modification, which is routine and (to western eyes) extreme in some cultures (piercings, feet binding, neck rings). So I accept we are a way from any degree of rubber clothing being acceptable clothing in all situations, but I actually think this may change in time. Since my childhood I have seen it become acceptable for women dress more and more in “men’s clothes”, sporting short “men’s” haircuts and then there was the (near) fetish of the punk fashions that became widespread the late 70s.
How do I feel about it? Well it’s not going to affect my current activities, but yes I think it would be generally a good thing if people were not inhibited by society and able to wear anything that makes them feel good or allows them to express themselves. And, although it’s not what drives me, I think future generations of fetishist will owe the current trailblazers (e.g. Blackie and Latex Lady) a huge debt of gratitude when they feel at ease wearing latex in public.
That said, I do think that you are pretty much spot on in identifying the 3 fundamental aspect (or motivations) in wearing latex : physiological, social and psychological – although in examining the subject it is often difficult to talk about one without the other. For example, the impermeable nature of latex is equally applicable to physiological, social and psychological aspects wearing the material. You could put the argument that, for example, latex’s (often) figure hugging propensity, sensual nature, sexual “practicalities” and overtones all have physiological, social and psychological aspects. This is not to diminish the validity of examining all three aspects.
We all know there are challenges of latex lifestyle. The most obvious are the physical challenges and practicality of being totally sealed in an impermeable material for long periods. If we assume an aim of being as total encased in latex as possible, for extended periods, challenges would include:
- maintaining a safe and comfortable body temperature
- dealing with sudden changes in environmental temperature
- dealing with perspiration
- dealing with condensation (both in suite and on goggles / eye pieces)
- allowing for all the other body excretions
- providing mechanism for required nourishment
- having the desired access to breathable air
- ensuring the total enclosure kit is complete enough (to the desired level of encasement/bondage) while allowing the wearer to pursue any necessary activities.
- Avoid painful pressure sores after long periods.
- Ensuring that the suit does not impede blood flow to extremities while being sufficiently close fitting.
- Dealing with vitamin deficiency due to lack of sun-light on skin.
- Having some strategy to exercise enough to prevent atrophy and maintain a level of physical fitness while either not overheating while in latex or spending too long out of latex while exercising. For me this is the ultimate physical challenge….
A challengingly long list, but, if you take them one at a time, it is not that they are insurmountable; it’s just that they are challenges to be overcome. Some are much more difficult to deal with than others. They could be solved by engineering a way out, which might include throwing money at the problem or might mean a compromise in comfort v endurance v degree of encasement.
How an individual deals with the challenges may depend on the nature of their desire to be encased and on how long they are aiming to spend in latex. I don’t claim to have dealt with them all to the extent of making them all a non-issue in all circumstances, but I am merely on the road to finding successively more effective ways of coping with each challenge as and when I chose to increase the latex to non-latex ratio of my lifestyle (and the degree of my total enclosure).
While some of the challenges require a specific strategy, others require adaptation or familiarisation. For instance, I notice that when I visit very hot climates the locals have acclimatized and are not sweating as profusely as I am (despite common biological ancestry). The same is true in cold climates, at sea, at high altitudes, dry climates… Part of this may be strategy (to quote Coward, in some countries “…only mad dogs and English men go out in the mid day sun…”) but there is also an element of the body adapting to the new norm. It is my contention that, given the right “training”, the human body has the ability to adapt to a degree where it can noticeably perform to increase comfort levels when perusing the goal of a latex lifestyle.
Of course no amount of acclimatisation is going to be enough to overcome all these challenges in all situations. So the question is, are you looking to endure the worst the latex enclosure has to offer to satisfy a submissive desire? For some (like Blackie) the endurance is the motivation and a sweaty challenge is the aim. I can understand this and have sometimes deliberately gone for this and more in making life hell in rubber. But my current aim is to wear rubber for far longer periods than my skin could tolerate being regularly saturated with water and bodily waste, not to mention being uncomfortably hot / cold. I also want to be able to adequately function (e.g. work, play) while wearing latex and the key to this has to be to stay comfortable and (for me) above all stay as dry as physically possible.
So after taking what physical steps I can, my next step has been to adapt my routine behaviour in order to stay within the margins of what is practical with a rubber lifestyle. For me this means modifying my WHOLE lifestyle so that I can use my behaviour to control my metabolism (or my response to rubber encasement) and therefore my body temperature, perspiration and bodily functions. This is ongoing and being refined day by day. Some of it is controversial, others common sense. For example, avoiding some foodstuffs and stimulants that contain ingredients that increase your rate of perspiration, excretions, urination and general metabolism. Even the actual moment I chose to first get into latex is critical (time of day and what I was doing beforehand).
However, the most fundamental impact of a latex lifestyle is the pattern of behaviour that I find sustainable once in latex. On the positive side there are lots of things that I spend the bulk of my life doing that are totally possible while in latex TE, even if not quite as easy as when in vanilla. Much of my work is quite possible (basically thinking, using a computer, talking on the phone) and the bits that are not possible are mainly to do with how clients and fellow workers (society) would react to me where I to visit site in latex TE! Most other housebound activities are totally possible, including sleeping, eating, listening to music, reading and of course sex... And if this were all that I wanted to do, I am sure I would already be on course for 24/7 latex lifestyle…
And this is were it gets difficult for most of us. A decade ago I think I would have been more than willing to give up virtually all outside activities to achieve a latex lifestyle, if I had only had the courage, dedication and knowledge needed to attempt what everyone said was an impossible dream… Now I find that despite my best efforts (!) I have accumulated some of the usual vanilla interests and attachments that give me an extensive set of reasons to want to be out travelling, socialising or playing (backpacking, photography, and sailing). These activities are (often) impractical while in latex TE for either social or physical reasons.
So, my latex lifestyle is about dealing with the physical difficulties, finding the right balance, making sacrifices and taking control. If you are serious about a latex lifestyle you first need to think about how you are going to sustain yourself financially such that you get the opportunity to wear latex most/all the time. If you have an independent means or have a partner who will support you, that’s ideal! For the rest of us, you really have to take control of your career to give you the latex lifestyle and living standard you want. I am (currently) lucky as I took the necessary risks to become freelance long ago and now work mainly from home. Others will have to make their own tough decisions which make take years to accomplish. There is little I can do about the time the customer requires me to spend working on site, but the rest of my life is about the hard sacrifices I chose to make. I find that I cannot spend 24/7/365 days in latex and have great social, family and outdoor life (maybe others can). But given that I am truly dedicated to latex, I can endeavour to find the mix that gives me the least possible time out of latex while staying sane and happy.
To achieve a latex lifestyle I therefore now hit the biggest challenges. The physical stuff is almost the easiest to deal with – you just need to come up with a technique or strategy to deal with it. Ultimately, if you can’t do 23/7 everyday, do 20/7 - whatever the limitation, just find the limit and go for the max that is achievable. One day, one day off, Three days on, two off – whatever. But for me, when I have spent 48 to 72 hours continuously in rubber, it is often not my physical condition that makes me want to strip off but that I want / need to go achieve something out in the real world that would be impossible while dressed in rubber.
Just before I move on, Dark says “People such as LadyII, whose circumstances might allow this could attempt it...99.9999% of the rest of us it is impossible.”. I find it interesting that you accept that a lifestyle like is 100% achievable (I hope everyone is OK for me to round to 3 decimal places ;o) ) – many ruberists not only do not believe her, but think the whole idea of 24/7 is “impossible”. (Incidentally, I find the term 23/7 to be splitting hairs when you examine LadyII protocols). I have no idea if she is for real (and have no idea of how anyone could categorically prove it to my satisfaction) but am convinced from her writing and my experiences that a rubber lifestyle technically possible if very, very difficult. If she is for real, then she has shown unbelievable dedication as a submissive and rubberist. In fact if she cheated one whole day once a month, it would still be massively impressive to me.
I hope she is for real, and, while keeping an open mind, I actually chose to believe there is much more than an element of truth in here story, mainly as I can think of no motive for her to deceive that seems compatible with what we have grown to know of her character. If I was in her position I know the biggest challenge would be the social isolation – but we are told she has a constant companion, a very organised fetish master, a rubberist son and a circle of fetish and s/m oriented friends that they meets up with. Well if all that was true, the biggest physiological challenge (the “latex isolation” effect) wouldn’t be such an issue and suddenly the whole thing becomes believable to me.
Now for the motivation…. You certainly need a strong motive to find the necessary inspiration to even attempt a latex lifestyle.
Dark invented a term “platonic notion of enclosure...” - which sounds fascinating and would like to here more about…. I wonder if this is this linked to the transition from (instant) sexual gratification to the sensual experience that 24/7 REPs have reported?
To go into all the reasons for “the psychological need to enclose in rubber” now would make this already long entry unbearably long, but can agree there is probably lots of reasons for lots of people. Some that are less strong in me are the social counter culture stuff or (I think) a direct need to be perverse. I am not into this for peer approval (although not being alone does help!). Dark also mentions sexual need, sensual need and these seem more applicable to me.
I have one further (rather ill defined) theory to put forward. Motivations for some people to have alternative lifestyles, appearances, sexual behaviour (as well as physiological disorders!) is in some part due to a specific strong personal identify or body image issue that may be at odds with reality. How this stuff gets into your head I cannot say, but maybe some of us have a strong image of themselves that includes a latex covering. Being in a non-latex state would cause an unpleasing mismatch between the personal self image and reality. As for what aspect of the (idealized) self image would be missing, for some it might be the shiny appearance, the figure hugging appearance, the flattering/firming “hand” of skin tight rubber on the form, the sensual feel, the perverse mode, the loss of human identity, the objectification, the idea of being hermetically sealed, the feeling of being “the other”, the overtly kinky sexual association, the breath control associations of masks or even just the smell! For me I think it is all these thing in different measures and something more. My fetish really does include the love of what is obviously (to everyone else) an inanimate object. Some people have worshiped trees, rocks or fellows. This Looney is dedicated to the latex that gives me so much back and spending long periods in TE involves dedication and me making some sacrifices. All disturbingly common human behaviour patterns maybe...
Now the footnotes…
BTW – the powerful desire to strip off latex after sexual climax seems to be very common, but I can report that it is also eminently curable! I used to get around this by being physically locking in with no access to the key (!), but Latex Lady & others gave me the necessary encouragement and hints on how to overcome this and now I often don’t even get a slightest impulse to de-rubber. Overcoming this impulse really is possible – assuming you have at least the slightest interest in seeing what happens if you stay rubberier for a few hours longer….
BTW2 - One thing I didn’t deal with was the comment “and train your psyche to deal with the social issues.”… That’s because this is still work in progress for me!
Sealed
Monday, August 08, 2005
Monday, 08 August 2005 – Physical And Mental Issues of becoming a Rubber Dependent fetishist.
Dark and others have talked and asked about both the physical and mental challenges associated with the possibility of becoming “rubber dependent”.
The physiological or physical effects on de-rubbering was a surprising for me when I first noticed them. After weeks of spending much of every day in latex, building up my exposure day by day, followed by a few days spent in rubber 24/7, I did notice that I felt very strange when wearing non-latex clothes. All sorts of sensations – some of discomfort – that you spend years acclimatizing to were suddenly apparent.
It reminded me of childhood sensations of being asked to wear “fancy” clothes to go to special events (weddings and the like). The first time I wore any new type of clothing as a child was always a challenge. Typically you were being asked to wear itchy, scratchy things that were too tight or too lose or that pinched somewhere. I just got through such things by looking forward to the massive release when I was back home an allowed to return to my normal clothes.
It was very much like for the first few days after returning to non-latex after my 24/7 latex experiments. The cloth of my chinos felt scratchy against my legs – like they were made of wool. I tried several different pairs to check this out but they all felt the similar. All the clothes seemed to be binding or knotting on areas that needed to move, such arm-pit / shoulder and the top the legs. They needed to work their way up a limb to allow the movement – which felt very odd compared to the rubbery stretch of my “normal” second skin.
The most uncomfortable thing was getting used to the brutal way the non-latex clothes felt around the crotch area. If I wasn’t being chaffed, then I was being squashed or cut into by the seams as I moved about. I found it impossible to resist the impulse to re-arrange myself to get comfortable. This was something that made it a bit challenging to be in public for a few days.
It wasn’t that my skin had been damaged during my time in latex. I am lucky to rarely suffer skin irritation due to long exposure to latex. Anyway, this felt different. My skin felt OK, it was just that everything outside felt odd. Even having air moving over my skin at my ankles, wrists and collar felt noticeably odd.
As I wore the non-latex for longer I noticed something else that I would normally only have been vaguely aware of - a lot of vanilla wear is not very breathable! In addition to this the usual solution is to wear socks / underwear – which, along with other areas can get sodden as the day goes on. On a hot day I found it very strange to think that I was being “vanilla” by wearing an extra soggy layer under my outer clothes. The way I found to help with the transition was to switch to mainly wear climbing or sailing base layer clothes that were specifically designed to wick away the moisture.
On a similar subject, another thing I became aware of is the smell. At the start of the day you clothes smell of the material and the perfume of the detergent and by the end of the day all the items have their own strange character…
In summary, after the first 24 hours out of latex, I don’t think I could have felt more uncomfortable if I had been wearing a canvas sack! Ironically, a lot of the physical challenges of wearing latex that had taken months/years of perseverance to acclimatise to had their parallels in non-latex clothing.
The skin physiology seems to adjust to life in latex, but possibly more importantly, the nerves and brain seen to slowly get adjusted to certain patterns of stimulus in response certain movements or even being motionless in latex (or vanilla). In anticipating these sensations, they become less noticeable and more a background factor. After days in latex, it still physically feels nearly the same as it did after an hour in latex (which is handy when I am looking for stimulation), its just that my brain does not constantly remind my of the feeling to the same degree (unless I want it to). The interesting thing is that my experience seems to indicate that it works for all clothes, not just latex. As a child, you have to adapt to feeling of wearing shoes, cotton, wool ….
Luckily for me, this uncomfortable effect on going vanilla has always been bearable and easy to overcome after the first few days. This is undoubtedly due to the relatively short periods I have managed 24/7 in latex. Also I have found that a good cure is to never go more than 24 hours out of latex!
The interesting question for me is, how physically difficult would it be to bear to go back to wearing non-latex clothes after spending weeks/months/years in a (near) 24/7 latex lifestyle?
And this is all before examining the psychological impact! I wonder what people think about this…
To be honest I still have some mental challenges after just a few days in 24/7 latex to overcome before worrying about the physiological barrier that would stop me taking off the latex. However, as others are noted, going several days without getting back into rubber does steadily become more difficult once you start on down the route to a rubber lifestyle. I think I might examine this whole area after some feedback and further reflection.
As for my future latex lifestyle, I am still at the tantalising stage of being very close to having secured a latex lifestyle friendly chunk or work. I should know in the next few days. If things work out, I will have some international travel (New York) but should also have plenty of time to work in rubber at my home office.
Sealed
The physiological or physical effects on de-rubbering was a surprising for me when I first noticed them. After weeks of spending much of every day in latex, building up my exposure day by day, followed by a few days spent in rubber 24/7, I did notice that I felt very strange when wearing non-latex clothes. All sorts of sensations – some of discomfort – that you spend years acclimatizing to were suddenly apparent.
It reminded me of childhood sensations of being asked to wear “fancy” clothes to go to special events (weddings and the like). The first time I wore any new type of clothing as a child was always a challenge. Typically you were being asked to wear itchy, scratchy things that were too tight or too lose or that pinched somewhere. I just got through such things by looking forward to the massive release when I was back home an allowed to return to my normal clothes.
It was very much like for the first few days after returning to non-latex after my 24/7 latex experiments. The cloth of my chinos felt scratchy against my legs – like they were made of wool. I tried several different pairs to check this out but they all felt the similar. All the clothes seemed to be binding or knotting on areas that needed to move, such arm-pit / shoulder and the top the legs. They needed to work their way up a limb to allow the movement – which felt very odd compared to the rubbery stretch of my “normal” second skin.
The most uncomfortable thing was getting used to the brutal way the non-latex clothes felt around the crotch area. If I wasn’t being chaffed, then I was being squashed or cut into by the seams as I moved about. I found it impossible to resist the impulse to re-arrange myself to get comfortable. This was something that made it a bit challenging to be in public for a few days.
It wasn’t that my skin had been damaged during my time in latex. I am lucky to rarely suffer skin irritation due to long exposure to latex. Anyway, this felt different. My skin felt OK, it was just that everything outside felt odd. Even having air moving over my skin at my ankles, wrists and collar felt noticeably odd.
As I wore the non-latex for longer I noticed something else that I would normally only have been vaguely aware of - a lot of vanilla wear is not very breathable! In addition to this the usual solution is to wear socks / underwear – which, along with other areas can get sodden as the day goes on. On a hot day I found it very strange to think that I was being “vanilla” by wearing an extra soggy layer under my outer clothes. The way I found to help with the transition was to switch to mainly wear climbing or sailing base layer clothes that were specifically designed to wick away the moisture.
On a similar subject, another thing I became aware of is the smell. At the start of the day you clothes smell of the material and the perfume of the detergent and by the end of the day all the items have their own strange character…
In summary, after the first 24 hours out of latex, I don’t think I could have felt more uncomfortable if I had been wearing a canvas sack! Ironically, a lot of the physical challenges of wearing latex that had taken months/years of perseverance to acclimatise to had their parallels in non-latex clothing.
The skin physiology seems to adjust to life in latex, but possibly more importantly, the nerves and brain seen to slowly get adjusted to certain patterns of stimulus in response certain movements or even being motionless in latex (or vanilla). In anticipating these sensations, they become less noticeable and more a background factor. After days in latex, it still physically feels nearly the same as it did after an hour in latex (which is handy when I am looking for stimulation), its just that my brain does not constantly remind my of the feeling to the same degree (unless I want it to). The interesting thing is that my experience seems to indicate that it works for all clothes, not just latex. As a child, you have to adapt to feeling of wearing shoes, cotton, wool ….
Luckily for me, this uncomfortable effect on going vanilla has always been bearable and easy to overcome after the first few days. This is undoubtedly due to the relatively short periods I have managed 24/7 in latex. Also I have found that a good cure is to never go more than 24 hours out of latex!
The interesting question for me is, how physically difficult would it be to bear to go back to wearing non-latex clothes after spending weeks/months/years in a (near) 24/7 latex lifestyle?
And this is all before examining the psychological impact! I wonder what people think about this…
To be honest I still have some mental challenges after just a few days in 24/7 latex to overcome before worrying about the physiological barrier that would stop me taking off the latex. However, as others are noted, going several days without getting back into rubber does steadily become more difficult once you start on down the route to a rubber lifestyle. I think I might examine this whole area after some feedback and further reflection.
As for my future latex lifestyle, I am still at the tantalising stage of being very close to having secured a latex lifestyle friendly chunk or work. I should know in the next few days. If things work out, I will have some international travel (New York) but should also have plenty of time to work in rubber at my home office.
Sealed
Thursday, July 28, 2005
Thursday, 28 July 2005 – Searching for reasons to get out of my rubber TE?
Blackie (& all),
Chlorination would certainly help with your elaborate / extensive gear. Particularly with items that are worn close to the skin. I don't know if chlorination aids getting into subsequent layers as I have not tried that. I can say that there is still fairly hard to get (disposable) non-chlorinated black surgical gloves over my chlorinated suite gloves (this is an advantage once on as they stay put).
The chlorination process is fairly unpleasant and I would be interested in less aggressive methods. The problem I had was with the volume of chlorine gas released in a short period. As far as I can see, short emersion times are not a prerequisite - so a slower reaction should work just as well. In fact a slower process would help with difficult items which require turning inside out.
One thing I would like to try is to add diluted acid in stages to slow things down. Some say that a 24 - 48 hour soak in bleach works just as well - but leaves a stronger bleach smell for longer. I would worry about leaving it in for that long as the bleach would have time to soak into the latex (which is slightly porous) and effect it. Having said that, I have soaked latex for 3 hours without any ill effects. Like you say, bleach is great for cleaning up heavily "used" latex anyway...
Be v. interested in your experiences.
Been reading your blog (& posts elsewhere) extensively. Your approach is different from mine. Your experiences seem more intense and physically demanding. Although my lifestyle is often physically and mentally taxing - I usually try to structure my sessions, and in fact whole life, to make it easy as I can to stay in rubber for as long as possible. You deliberately seem to go out of your way to make it as challenging as possible "in there" - putting yourself into hot locations, places where you have to walk long distances, situations where you cannot easily control the experience - and then manage to stay sealed up for hours and hours in many layers of thick heavy duty latex. Respect! No wonder it sometimes takes you a few days to recover...
Different though the approach is, I can see where you are coming from. Your tales are of pushing your personal limits and endurance, and are certainly "hot" (both senses). To me it seems like a submissive agenda, almost as if you are submitting to the rubber. I admire the dedication and perseverance in your chosen life style.
I haven’t perfected my breathing apparatus yet, so cannot claim to be wearing it all the time, but my lifestyle of rubber TE with frequent sessions of electro stim, poppers, rubbery orgasms and breath play is fairly fantastic! Like I said, my dedication to my lifestyle can take a heavy toll, but chlorination is just one of the things that can help with the burden.
Xvious & all,
Finding a reason to get out of my (chlorinated) rubber is starting to become more and more of a challenge now the weather here in the UK has dropped back to the low 20s.
It used to be a challenge to stay in for just a few hours... Partly for physically difficulties, but mainly because there were so many things I wanted to do that were incompatible with wearing rubber.
Over time, I have found methods & processes to cope with many of the physical limitations and I have adjusted quite a few things in my personal life to make it easier to find the time to stay encased in latex for longer.
Now, I find that being out of latex is LESS comfortable both physically and mentally than being totally encased. Time out of latex now feels physically strange and have often found I have the thought “this is a waste of my time” nagging away at the back of my mind. Relaxing and sleeping out of rubber is often a challenge now. This all seems to get worse, the longer I am out of my normal latex suit. It’s like I have developed a dependency wearing rubber and/or for my fetish lifestyle – or maybe I have even a mild addiction…
Up until now I have been “saved” by my remaining work travel commitments – where I had to be on the client’s site, I am only able to wear latex while not at work. There has been a fair bit of working away since late spring, but on the horizon, I can see that I am probably going to land a huge bit of work which can largely be done from my home office – and therefore I will have one less reason for not achieving my desired lifestyle. This period of constant home working should coincide with lower temperatures so making the wearing of rubber even easier…
Strangely, I feel slightly apprehensive as well as excited about this (prospective) longer lifestyle experiment. What if my fetish lifestyle dependency becomes pathological? I am not worried about the physical effects, but how much of a mental grip will it get? Will I be able to “handle it” and be able and willing to re-enter the “normal” world at the end of the project? In (say) 6 moths, would I be able to deal with needing to spend 8 hours a day “unsealed” and without my various fetish “supports”?
Sealed
Chlorination would certainly help with your elaborate / extensive gear. Particularly with items that are worn close to the skin. I don't know if chlorination aids getting into subsequent layers as I have not tried that. I can say that there is still fairly hard to get (disposable) non-chlorinated black surgical gloves over my chlorinated suite gloves (this is an advantage once on as they stay put).
The chlorination process is fairly unpleasant and I would be interested in less aggressive methods. The problem I had was with the volume of chlorine gas released in a short period. As far as I can see, short emersion times are not a prerequisite - so a slower reaction should work just as well. In fact a slower process would help with difficult items which require turning inside out.
One thing I would like to try is to add diluted acid in stages to slow things down. Some say that a 24 - 48 hour soak in bleach works just as well - but leaves a stronger bleach smell for longer. I would worry about leaving it in for that long as the bleach would have time to soak into the latex (which is slightly porous) and effect it. Having said that, I have soaked latex for 3 hours without any ill effects. Like you say, bleach is great for cleaning up heavily "used" latex anyway...
Be v. interested in your experiences.
Been reading your blog (& posts elsewhere) extensively. Your approach is different from mine. Your experiences seem more intense and physically demanding. Although my lifestyle is often physically and mentally taxing - I usually try to structure my sessions, and in fact whole life, to make it easy as I can to stay in rubber for as long as possible. You deliberately seem to go out of your way to make it as challenging as possible "in there" - putting yourself into hot locations, places where you have to walk long distances, situations where you cannot easily control the experience - and then manage to stay sealed up for hours and hours in many layers of thick heavy duty latex. Respect! No wonder it sometimes takes you a few days to recover...
Different though the approach is, I can see where you are coming from. Your tales are of pushing your personal limits and endurance, and are certainly "hot" (both senses). To me it seems like a submissive agenda, almost as if you are submitting to the rubber. I admire the dedication and perseverance in your chosen life style.
I haven’t perfected my breathing apparatus yet, so cannot claim to be wearing it all the time, but my lifestyle of rubber TE with frequent sessions of electro stim, poppers, rubbery orgasms and breath play is fairly fantastic! Like I said, my dedication to my lifestyle can take a heavy toll, but chlorination is just one of the things that can help with the burden.
Xvious & all,
Finding a reason to get out of my (chlorinated) rubber is starting to become more and more of a challenge now the weather here in the UK has dropped back to the low 20s.
It used to be a challenge to stay in for just a few hours... Partly for physically difficulties, but mainly because there were so many things I wanted to do that were incompatible with wearing rubber.
Over time, I have found methods & processes to cope with many of the physical limitations and I have adjusted quite a few things in my personal life to make it easier to find the time to stay encased in latex for longer.
Now, I find that being out of latex is LESS comfortable both physically and mentally than being totally encased. Time out of latex now feels physically strange and have often found I have the thought “this is a waste of my time” nagging away at the back of my mind. Relaxing and sleeping out of rubber is often a challenge now. This all seems to get worse, the longer I am out of my normal latex suit. It’s like I have developed a dependency wearing rubber and/or for my fetish lifestyle – or maybe I have even a mild addiction…
Up until now I have been “saved” by my remaining work travel commitments – where I had to be on the client’s site, I am only able to wear latex while not at work. There has been a fair bit of working away since late spring, but on the horizon, I can see that I am probably going to land a huge bit of work which can largely be done from my home office – and therefore I will have one less reason for not achieving my desired lifestyle. This period of constant home working should coincide with lower temperatures so making the wearing of rubber even easier…
Strangely, I feel slightly apprehensive as well as excited about this (prospective) longer lifestyle experiment. What if my fetish lifestyle dependency becomes pathological? I am not worried about the physical effects, but how much of a mental grip will it get? Will I be able to “handle it” and be able and willing to re-enter the “normal” world at the end of the project? In (say) 6 moths, would I be able to deal with needing to spend 8 hours a day “unsealed” and without my various fetish “supports”?
Sealed
Thursday, July 21, 2005
Thursday, 21 July 2005 - Forget talc and lubes?
The claim is “Forget talc and lubes, chlorination of your rubber items could be the way to go…”. The question I set out to discover was does it work and is it worth the bother? After all, I was quite happy using my particular brand of Silicone…
Chlorination – what’s that? Well it’s a DIY chemical process to give your latex clothes a “non-stick” surface. The process is described elsewhere, so I will concentrate on reviewing the outcome of the process.
I carried out the process on a Cocoon neck entry latex suit with attached gloves and feet and I also processed a mask. Once processed they were very clean and smelt more like a swimming baths than rubber. The chlorine smell is not overpowering even when wearing, just clean a smell which does seem be fading.
Then the feel test... On touching the surface with my fingers, I did notice it being slightly different - sort of silkier. I am not sure what I was expecting but it did not feel dramatically different and still felt very "rubbery".
However, then I tried on the suit and – unbelievable! It’s going to be difficult to describe the experience in words, but the practical upshot is that putting on a cat suit is EASIER than putting on a pair of cotton jeans. Pulling up the legs, I was reminded a little of the feeling of pulling on lycra / spandex. Chlorinated rubber just glides over the skin (as long as both are reasonably dry) with zero resistance.
There is an important time saving here. Even with the practice of wearing rubber almost daily for years it normally takes me some time to get into my outfit. There is carefully applying just enough lube to just the right places in the suit, then doing the same to myself. As I use minimal lube, there is then a careful process of easing myself into the suit so as not to strain or damage the suit (which becomes more important when you are wearing your rubber daily for long periods). Sometimes the are some “gymnastics” needed towards the end. Once on, I then normally have to spend the first few minutes, tweaking the fit to ensure the fit is comfortable around the areas of stretch and sensitive areas. With a chlorinated suit, you just pull it on and zip up and the suit sorts itself out in the first few minutes while you walk around and move about. When you come to take off a chlorinated suit, there is no lube to wash off or get dust stuck to. Usually we are talking no more than a quick wash under the shower if you got it dirty and leave to dry.
This time saving has an important physiological effect. Putting on chlorinated rubber is no longer a chore and something to plan. It can be a snap decision. It’s no more taxing than any other clothes. Several cycles of changes to and from mundane clothes are possible as and when needed. I have noticed another side effect – so far my suit does not leave the faint rubber odour on my body that others can sometimes detect. Not sure if this is a permanent effect, but at the moment it does mean I don’t need to shower after each and every change if otherwise clean and pushed for time.
What’s it feel like to wear? Wearing it actually feels better than normal, particularly at first, as you don't have talc or lube getting in on the act. Just you and your dry-feeling rubber. The garment hangs differently and even sounds a little different.
At first the latex just glides over your body like silk. Frictionless. It’s almost like you are not wearing rubber at all – but some sort of stretch material. However, after a time, this effect slowly fades as moisture levels increase in the suit. As this happens, the suit starts to feel more rubber and a little stickier (like normal rubber). This is not a bad thing as after a time you want to be reminded that you are wearing rubber after all.
What is it like for longer periods / latex lifestyle? Well I haven’t had the opportunity to wear the suit for very long periods yet – a single 8 hours session has been the max so far. But even for this relatively short period I can tell it has only enhanced the experience. At the end of the session, I felt as comfortable as when I entered the suit.
I can see it being particularly relevant to those embarking on a lifestyle of extended, constant or near-constant latex encasement. Finding lubes that are compatible with such a lifestyle and their skin can be a challenge for some. Also keeping clean can be challenge. The time and effort involved every time you need to change can also be a trial with non-chlorinated latex.
Problems with chlorinated latex? Well the initial process is unpleasant and nerve racking but on the other hand it is quick and once done its supposed to last the lifetime of article. Other down sides… Well it can affect the finish - and other than that… well if there are any I will let you know!
At the moment, the only problem is finding any reason that I would want to take off my suit…. And finding the time and opportunity to stay in there for longer… And I am making some progress with this issue too!
Sealed
Chlorination – what’s that? Well it’s a DIY chemical process to give your latex clothes a “non-stick” surface. The process is described elsewhere, so I will concentrate on reviewing the outcome of the process.
I carried out the process on a Cocoon neck entry latex suit with attached gloves and feet and I also processed a mask. Once processed they were very clean and smelt more like a swimming baths than rubber. The chlorine smell is not overpowering even when wearing, just clean a smell which does seem be fading.
Then the feel test... On touching the surface with my fingers, I did notice it being slightly different - sort of silkier. I am not sure what I was expecting but it did not feel dramatically different and still felt very "rubbery".
However, then I tried on the suit and – unbelievable! It’s going to be difficult to describe the experience in words, but the practical upshot is that putting on a cat suit is EASIER than putting on a pair of cotton jeans. Pulling up the legs, I was reminded a little of the feeling of pulling on lycra / spandex. Chlorinated rubber just glides over the skin (as long as both are reasonably dry) with zero resistance.
There is an important time saving here. Even with the practice of wearing rubber almost daily for years it normally takes me some time to get into my outfit. There is carefully applying just enough lube to just the right places in the suit, then doing the same to myself. As I use minimal lube, there is then a careful process of easing myself into the suit so as not to strain or damage the suit (which becomes more important when you are wearing your rubber daily for long periods). Sometimes the are some “gymnastics” needed towards the end. Once on, I then normally have to spend the first few minutes, tweaking the fit to ensure the fit is comfortable around the areas of stretch and sensitive areas. With a chlorinated suit, you just pull it on and zip up and the suit sorts itself out in the first few minutes while you walk around and move about. When you come to take off a chlorinated suit, there is no lube to wash off or get dust stuck to. Usually we are talking no more than a quick wash under the shower if you got it dirty and leave to dry.
This time saving has an important physiological effect. Putting on chlorinated rubber is no longer a chore and something to plan. It can be a snap decision. It’s no more taxing than any other clothes. Several cycles of changes to and from mundane clothes are possible as and when needed. I have noticed another side effect – so far my suit does not leave the faint rubber odour on my body that others can sometimes detect. Not sure if this is a permanent effect, but at the moment it does mean I don’t need to shower after each and every change if otherwise clean and pushed for time.
What’s it feel like to wear? Wearing it actually feels better than normal, particularly at first, as you don't have talc or lube getting in on the act. Just you and your dry-feeling rubber. The garment hangs differently and even sounds a little different.
At first the latex just glides over your body like silk. Frictionless. It’s almost like you are not wearing rubber at all – but some sort of stretch material. However, after a time, this effect slowly fades as moisture levels increase in the suit. As this happens, the suit starts to feel more rubber and a little stickier (like normal rubber). This is not a bad thing as after a time you want to be reminded that you are wearing rubber after all.
What is it like for longer periods / latex lifestyle? Well I haven’t had the opportunity to wear the suit for very long periods yet – a single 8 hours session has been the max so far. But even for this relatively short period I can tell it has only enhanced the experience. At the end of the session, I felt as comfortable as when I entered the suit.
I can see it being particularly relevant to those embarking on a lifestyle of extended, constant or near-constant latex encasement. Finding lubes that are compatible with such a lifestyle and their skin can be a challenge for some. Also keeping clean can be challenge. The time and effort involved every time you need to change can also be a trial with non-chlorinated latex.
Problems with chlorinated latex? Well the initial process is unpleasant and nerve racking but on the other hand it is quick and once done its supposed to last the lifetime of article. Other down sides… Well it can affect the finish - and other than that… well if there are any I will let you know!
At the moment, the only problem is finding any reason that I would want to take off my suit…. And finding the time and opportunity to stay in there for longer… And I am making some progress with this issue too!
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Monday, July 04, 2005
Monday, July 04, 2005
One of the aims of this blog (along with promoting the idea that latex can be worn everyday) is to communicate with people into bag play and other re-breathing and breath control scenes. There is less on this subject on the web than other kinks, possibly due to the legitimate safety concerns, but possibly also because it still taboo. Lack of communication due to taboos can make people feel isolated in their obsessions, so I would like to openly declaring that I am one of the many people who have an obsession with breath play, and occasionally describing what I get up to on my blog ad how I feel about the experiences…
A projects I have been working on is a re-breathing kit that I can use while working (or surfing) on the computer. I wanted something that can control the amount of fresh air entering the otherwise closed system with some accuracy. It would then be possible to set it up for fairly “light” amounts of re-breathing which would be comfortable for prolonged periods (like hours).
Previous crude configurations usually involved all-over face masks or bags. The trouble here was the inevitable fogging up which made reading impossible. But lessons from these systems would prove useful in a designing system where mouth and nose are contained separately from goggled eyes.
I have found that there are two possible routes. The easiest is to design a closed re-breathing setup with a small opening that relies on the pressure/vacuum from the lungs to expel a small amount of the total volume and allow a small amount of clean air to be drawn in. The crudest example of this is a plastic bag to be placed over the head, drawn around the neck with a loop of cord, drawn to the required size with a toggle grip (a bit like a climber’s stuff-sac). The toggle grip can then be adjusted over the first few minutes to adjust the intensity of the effect. A good starting point for which is to have the neck cord set to about the size where it can be pulled to be a lose fit when drawn up to the chin. When the cord is allowed to settle around the neck, it will result in the bag having a fairly generous gap around it’s collar, allowing air to gradually makes it’s way into and out of the bag on each breath. The point here for me is not to set off a frantic session, but to adjust the cord to produce a slight but noticeable shift in breathing patterns. Fine tuning allows for hours of fun…
The other route is to have systems where a set amount of fresh air is pumped mechanically into an otherwise closed system, to which I am attached to. Again, a simple example of which is an electrical air pump or compressor delivering air via a tube which is attached to a plastic bag which is placed over the head and sealed around the neck. In such a setup, consideration has to be made to how a controlled amount of stale air can be allowed to escape from the system to make room for the pumped fresh air (for example a thin exhaust tube) and stop excess pressure developing. One advantage of these pumped systems is they can be more consistent and potentially more controllable. Good design can ensure that the fresh and stale air are sufficiently well mixed, well away from the face, that you get a consistent blend of O2 and C02. It is usually easier to achieve consistently the same result from one session to the next than with non-pumped systems. Down sides are the necessity of carrying breathing equipment around and ensuring its reliability.
For the purposes of this experiment, I have chosen a pumped system. I am still at the prototype stage, but this is what I am using…
Air is supplied by a battery operated air pump. This delivers enough air volume, but is not capable producing dangerous pressures. This is delivered along a medium/large bore pipe to a rubber bladder (the same sort you see on medical anaesthetic apparatus). The pumps pipe attaches to the bladder via a union with wide bore pipe – which is my breathing pipe. A third thin bore pipe is connected to the bladder via a small hole made at the far end of the bladder. The thin rubber pipe prevents excess pressure in the bladder by allowing some of the stale air out. It also allows the inevitable fluid build up from condensation to drain out. All the connections to the bladder are glued and camped securely and airtight.
The breathing tube connects the system to a securely attached mask. It is important for me that the system is deliberately well secured and not too easy or quick to remove. It’s all part of the fetish that I am reliant on the mechanism. It’s not that the system could never be made safe in case of a sudden failure, but that it would not be too quick and easy to whip the system off at whim.
At the moment, the mask is improvised arrangement of a face mask made secure by food grade thick cling film (AKA food wrap?), forming a seal around the nose and mouth. I am looking to improve this part of the arrangement. The film in turn, is held in place by tape. I usually wear a rubber hood over the whole head, which has openings for the eyes and a hole where the mouth should be where the breathing tube exits. I often wear goggle over the top of this so that there is not a single millimetre of me exposed to the outside air.
What’s it feel like to wear? Amazing. You have to start up the pump first, so you hardly notice it whirring away by the time you are “fully dressed” (by this stage I would always be already wearing an all-over latex suit). As soon as you finish sealing up the mask you are aware of that the air is getting staler. You need faith in your system (to provide sufficient air) at this point, as your senses tell you that you need fresh air. Past experience with this kit tells me that if I make it through the initial period when my body is adjusting to the changes, that there will be plenty of air. Keeping calm and being very careful not to exert myself, I proceed with the last stages of sealing myself up. Once done, I find somewhere to chill out while my body makes the necessary adjustments to be able to breathe this mix. This usually only takes a few minutes, but can take much longer depending on what the time of day is, my physical & mental state etc. The usual cycle during this period is an increase in speed of respiration and heart rate Also there is a slight desperateness to the breathing and slight feelings alarm – and these last two symptoms are the ones which I am aiming to illuminate as much as possible during the chill out. With this particular set up, this does not take long and the respiration and heart beat are not too far behind in returning to near normal.
Once I have adjusted, the set up provides lots of breathable air, so the physical effects are mild compared to normal bag play. There is a large psychological effect though, as I am now completely sealed up and totally reliant on the system to supply my air. Although it should be possible to cut my way out fairly quickly in an emergency, this is not something I would like to have to do. With no direct contact with the outside world, I become very aware of the senses I have and the sound of my own slightly stained breathing is dominant - and I find it compellingly exciting…
By now (spurred on by a well documented strong physiological suffocation reflex) I will probably be in possession of a rock hard erection and increased (often desperate) libido. Controlling this (usually welcome) by-product will be the next big challenge.
Improvements? Would like to have better control pump of the pumps output to better fine tune things. Would like to improve the endurance of the system – the battery life is the limiting factor at the moment – the actual time depends on battery make, but normal batteries last less than 2 hours while the best batteries last much longer (seems to be at least twice as long). Would like to improve redundancy - in case one pump/battery fails it would be good to have a hot standby. A even wider bore pipe between the mouth and bladder would be good, so that rapid breathing is effortless.
Sealed
A projects I have been working on is a re-breathing kit that I can use while working (or surfing) on the computer. I wanted something that can control the amount of fresh air entering the otherwise closed system with some accuracy. It would then be possible to set it up for fairly “light” amounts of re-breathing which would be comfortable for prolonged periods (like hours).
Previous crude configurations usually involved all-over face masks or bags. The trouble here was the inevitable fogging up which made reading impossible. But lessons from these systems would prove useful in a designing system where mouth and nose are contained separately from goggled eyes.
I have found that there are two possible routes. The easiest is to design a closed re-breathing setup with a small opening that relies on the pressure/vacuum from the lungs to expel a small amount of the total volume and allow a small amount of clean air to be drawn in. The crudest example of this is a plastic bag to be placed over the head, drawn around the neck with a loop of cord, drawn to the required size with a toggle grip (a bit like a climber’s stuff-sac). The toggle grip can then be adjusted over the first few minutes to adjust the intensity of the effect. A good starting point for which is to have the neck cord set to about the size where it can be pulled to be a lose fit when drawn up to the chin. When the cord is allowed to settle around the neck, it will result in the bag having a fairly generous gap around it’s collar, allowing air to gradually makes it’s way into and out of the bag on each breath. The point here for me is not to set off a frantic session, but to adjust the cord to produce a slight but noticeable shift in breathing patterns. Fine tuning allows for hours of fun…
The other route is to have systems where a set amount of fresh air is pumped mechanically into an otherwise closed system, to which I am attached to. Again, a simple example of which is an electrical air pump or compressor delivering air via a tube which is attached to a plastic bag which is placed over the head and sealed around the neck. In such a setup, consideration has to be made to how a controlled amount of stale air can be allowed to escape from the system to make room for the pumped fresh air (for example a thin exhaust tube) and stop excess pressure developing. One advantage of these pumped systems is they can be more consistent and potentially more controllable. Good design can ensure that the fresh and stale air are sufficiently well mixed, well away from the face, that you get a consistent blend of O2 and C02. It is usually easier to achieve consistently the same result from one session to the next than with non-pumped systems. Down sides are the necessity of carrying breathing equipment around and ensuring its reliability.
For the purposes of this experiment, I have chosen a pumped system. I am still at the prototype stage, but this is what I am using…
Air is supplied by a battery operated air pump. This delivers enough air volume, but is not capable producing dangerous pressures. This is delivered along a medium/large bore pipe to a rubber bladder (the same sort you see on medical anaesthetic apparatus). The pumps pipe attaches to the bladder via a union with wide bore pipe – which is my breathing pipe. A third thin bore pipe is connected to the bladder via a small hole made at the far end of the bladder. The thin rubber pipe prevents excess pressure in the bladder by allowing some of the stale air out. It also allows the inevitable fluid build up from condensation to drain out. All the connections to the bladder are glued and camped securely and airtight.
The breathing tube connects the system to a securely attached mask. It is important for me that the system is deliberately well secured and not too easy or quick to remove. It’s all part of the fetish that I am reliant on the mechanism. It’s not that the system could never be made safe in case of a sudden failure, but that it would not be too quick and easy to whip the system off at whim.
At the moment, the mask is improvised arrangement of a face mask made secure by food grade thick cling film (AKA food wrap?), forming a seal around the nose and mouth. I am looking to improve this part of the arrangement. The film in turn, is held in place by tape. I usually wear a rubber hood over the whole head, which has openings for the eyes and a hole where the mouth should be where the breathing tube exits. I often wear goggle over the top of this so that there is not a single millimetre of me exposed to the outside air.
What’s it feel like to wear? Amazing. You have to start up the pump first, so you hardly notice it whirring away by the time you are “fully dressed” (by this stage I would always be already wearing an all-over latex suit). As soon as you finish sealing up the mask you are aware of that the air is getting staler. You need faith in your system (to provide sufficient air) at this point, as your senses tell you that you need fresh air. Past experience with this kit tells me that if I make it through the initial period when my body is adjusting to the changes, that there will be plenty of air. Keeping calm and being very careful not to exert myself, I proceed with the last stages of sealing myself up. Once done, I find somewhere to chill out while my body makes the necessary adjustments to be able to breathe this mix. This usually only takes a few minutes, but can take much longer depending on what the time of day is, my physical & mental state etc. The usual cycle during this period is an increase in speed of respiration and heart rate Also there is a slight desperateness to the breathing and slight feelings alarm – and these last two symptoms are the ones which I am aiming to illuminate as much as possible during the chill out. With this particular set up, this does not take long and the respiration and heart beat are not too far behind in returning to near normal.
Once I have adjusted, the set up provides lots of breathable air, so the physical effects are mild compared to normal bag play. There is a large psychological effect though, as I am now completely sealed up and totally reliant on the system to supply my air. Although it should be possible to cut my way out fairly quickly in an emergency, this is not something I would like to have to do. With no direct contact with the outside world, I become very aware of the senses I have and the sound of my own slightly stained breathing is dominant - and I find it compellingly exciting…
By now (spurred on by a well documented strong physiological suffocation reflex) I will probably be in possession of a rock hard erection and increased (often desperate) libido. Controlling this (usually welcome) by-product will be the next big challenge.
Improvements? Would like to have better control pump of the pumps output to better fine tune things. Would like to improve the endurance of the system – the battery life is the limiting factor at the moment – the actual time depends on battery make, but normal batteries last less than 2 hours while the best batteries last much longer (seems to be at least twice as long). Would like to improve redundancy - in case one pump/battery fails it would be good to have a hot standby. A even wider bore pipe between the mouth and bladder would be good, so that rapid breathing is effortless.
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Friday, June 24, 2005
Friday, 24 June 2005
Before updating you on what is happening in my rubbery breath play world, I have a couple of outstanding items to resolve. I said some time ago that I would report back on what I thought of various lubrications and also electrical stimulation.
Lets do Lubrication first….
Well like most people I started with talcum powder. This I found it OK as it made it easy to get into my suits and is easy to get hold of. It has a nice dry silky feeling once you are in there. It doesn’t stain and is latex friendly. The down sides are that it is difficult to administer just the right amount and you tend to end up with too much of it and it getting everywhere. It is usually scented. It is a very fine dust so can irritate your lungs. Also, I tend to feel the talc as much or more than the actual clinging rubbery feeling that I am after in the first place.
J-Lube – This is the most recent thing I have tried. It has gained a lot of friends recently and got a lot of coverage on the web. It was purpose designed to work well with latex (in the veterinary world) and it’s supporters think it is the best thing in lubrication.
I don’t think it’s that simple. J-Lube certainly has amazing properties. It really is incredibly slippery against rubber. It comes as a powder concentrate that you are supposed to mix with water. And that’s a big problem for me. Being in a rubber suite for long periods, covered in a water based lube is like staying in a hot bath for too long for me. Finger tips go wrinkly first and the usual pink soft skin symptoms just spread slowly around the body.
As an experiment I placed a small amount of dry J-Lube in the suit and it worked like talc while getting in. Once in, it slowly “melts” into any moisture in the suit. It seemed to me that not only did it absorb moisture; it actually seemed to draw it out of my body. Soon I was swimming in there with progressively more and more moisture. Fun 4 sex, but not good if you want to wear you gear all day.
One other thing to consider is that J-Lube is quite difficult to get off your skin or rubber. Basically prolonged washing in the shower is needed. Some recommend salt. I used herbal bath salts, which helped (but did not dare to try on my suit).
In summary – it is a fantastic lubricant. It seems perfect for fisting or a shorter wet and slimy experience in a rubber suit. For longer term rubber enclosure, I would not recommend it due to it’s water base and being very difficult to move around in - it’s just so slimy!
Silicone – This is a group of semi-inorganic polymers, the inorganic part being Silicon. Silicones are usually odourless, non-toxic and the stuff I use is designed for matting rubber plumbing joint. It is relatively cheap, comes in a bottle with a small pourer and I only use the smallest amounts, mostly around the entrance for the feet, knees hands, neck, buttocks and inner groin areas. Just enough lube to get in without straining the suite and enough to prevent chafing. The stuff I use is a little sticky and much thicker than water, so tend stay were you put it. I have been using this stuff for years.
As I wear it, it may spread around my suit a little, but it does not absorb into the rubber or my skin. This property makes it great for wearing for longer periods. It does just the right amount of lubrication and the feeling does not change much over time. As long as you don’t apply too much, the rubber stays feeling like rubber and not of lube.
Silicone is very water repellent, so it doesn’t seem to dilute as the moisture levels in my suit increase. In fact, I have found that it not only protects the rubber from water moisture, it seems to inhibit sweating a little.
Despite what you may have heard, it is easy to wash off and you can get most of it off your rubber clothing with quick wash in warm water. I can report no skin problems or difficulty keeping items clean.
Silicone is therefore my favourite so far. I haven’t really tried many others as I am so happy with cheap Silicone. Specialist ones tend to be expensive and water based. Anyone found a reason to choose something else?
Of coarse the ideal situation is to not need lube. That’s were I will be researching in the future. One development is chlorination or rubber suites. Anyone had good or bad results with chlorination?
Electrical Stimulation
This is something I have been trying over last few months and I am a convert. Basically they are boxes with probes that send a tingly electrical sensation through an area of your body. Typically anal, vaginal or penis.
I have an ElectraStim Em32 with “Electraloops” and “Side Contact Anal Electraprobe”. The Em32 is a fairly new small, budget end device and is fine - but really needs more power and ideally two channels (so you can stimulate both groin and butt). However, it a good start and has variable intensity and a series of different stimulation programmes – which vary the current in different ways.
The Anal Electraprobe is straightforward and fun. It is easy to insert and remove and relatively small. I think I am relatively small in the anus dept. but unlike most plugs, I find it Ok to wear for hours and hours. The sensation on one of the alternating programs was a little like a shaft gently entering and leaving. I did find that the plug tends to burrow it’s way deeper and deeper into my body over time (particularly if I sit down). There is never any difficult removing it, due to it’s clever design, but I found that I am less sensitive the deeper it sits and the Em32 is then not powerful enough to do the job. The best option is to either never sit down while wearing it or periodically, fish it out a little (when all hell tend to break lose as it is usually on full power by then – very nice).
The “Electraloops” are soft rubber loops designed for use on men’s genitals and penis. They work OK, but can be tricky to wear for longer periods if buried in a rubber suite. As with all these devices, an understanding of basic electrical principals is handy. The Electraloops are of high resistance and I have found that you need to arrange for a short end of the loop to plug in to or insufficient power is delivered. Also, electricity tend to take the easiest path, so if your penis is against your body or a moist suit, some or all the power takes the alternative routes, tracking down the lower abdomen or wet suit. More power please!
I look at the Em32 as a proof of concept for me and I am very satisfied that this is a route worth exploring.
ElectraStim do a SensaVox which is slightly larger, more powerful, has two channels and has the ability to vary the effect according to sound (either a mic or from a CD). However, most people on the internet seem to recommend the products of Eros-Tek, the monster ET312 in particular. Eros-Tex machines tend to be powerful and with loads of programs and options. They are not cheap, but one day I think I will get one.
Anyone any experiences they want to share?
Sealed
Lets do Lubrication first….
Well like most people I started with talcum powder. This I found it OK as it made it easy to get into my suits and is easy to get hold of. It has a nice dry silky feeling once you are in there. It doesn’t stain and is latex friendly. The down sides are that it is difficult to administer just the right amount and you tend to end up with too much of it and it getting everywhere. It is usually scented. It is a very fine dust so can irritate your lungs. Also, I tend to feel the talc as much or more than the actual clinging rubbery feeling that I am after in the first place.
J-Lube – This is the most recent thing I have tried. It has gained a lot of friends recently and got a lot of coverage on the web. It was purpose designed to work well with latex (in the veterinary world) and it’s supporters think it is the best thing in lubrication.
I don’t think it’s that simple. J-Lube certainly has amazing properties. It really is incredibly slippery against rubber. It comes as a powder concentrate that you are supposed to mix with water. And that’s a big problem for me. Being in a rubber suite for long periods, covered in a water based lube is like staying in a hot bath for too long for me. Finger tips go wrinkly first and the usual pink soft skin symptoms just spread slowly around the body.
As an experiment I placed a small amount of dry J-Lube in the suit and it worked like talc while getting in. Once in, it slowly “melts” into any moisture in the suit. It seemed to me that not only did it absorb moisture; it actually seemed to draw it out of my body. Soon I was swimming in there with progressively more and more moisture. Fun 4 sex, but not good if you want to wear you gear all day.
One other thing to consider is that J-Lube is quite difficult to get off your skin or rubber. Basically prolonged washing in the shower is needed. Some recommend salt. I used herbal bath salts, which helped (but did not dare to try on my suit).
In summary – it is a fantastic lubricant. It seems perfect for fisting or a shorter wet and slimy experience in a rubber suit. For longer term rubber enclosure, I would not recommend it due to it’s water base and being very difficult to move around in - it’s just so slimy!
Silicone – This is a group of semi-inorganic polymers, the inorganic part being Silicon. Silicones are usually odourless, non-toxic and the stuff I use is designed for matting rubber plumbing joint. It is relatively cheap, comes in a bottle with a small pourer and I only use the smallest amounts, mostly around the entrance for the feet, knees hands, neck, buttocks and inner groin areas. Just enough lube to get in without straining the suite and enough to prevent chafing. The stuff I use is a little sticky and much thicker than water, so tend stay were you put it. I have been using this stuff for years.
As I wear it, it may spread around my suit a little, but it does not absorb into the rubber or my skin. This property makes it great for wearing for longer periods. It does just the right amount of lubrication and the feeling does not change much over time. As long as you don’t apply too much, the rubber stays feeling like rubber and not of lube.
Silicone is very water repellent, so it doesn’t seem to dilute as the moisture levels in my suit increase. In fact, I have found that it not only protects the rubber from water moisture, it seems to inhibit sweating a little.
Despite what you may have heard, it is easy to wash off and you can get most of it off your rubber clothing with quick wash in warm water. I can report no skin problems or difficulty keeping items clean.
Silicone is therefore my favourite so far. I haven’t really tried many others as I am so happy with cheap Silicone. Specialist ones tend to be expensive and water based. Anyone found a reason to choose something else?
Of coarse the ideal situation is to not need lube. That’s were I will be researching in the future. One development is chlorination or rubber suites. Anyone had good or bad results with chlorination?
Electrical Stimulation
This is something I have been trying over last few months and I am a convert. Basically they are boxes with probes that send a tingly electrical sensation through an area of your body. Typically anal, vaginal or penis.
I have an ElectraStim Em32 with “Electraloops” and “Side Contact Anal Electraprobe”. The Em32 is a fairly new small, budget end device and is fine - but really needs more power and ideally two channels (so you can stimulate both groin and butt). However, it a good start and has variable intensity and a series of different stimulation programmes – which vary the current in different ways.
The Anal Electraprobe is straightforward and fun. It is easy to insert and remove and relatively small. I think I am relatively small in the anus dept. but unlike most plugs, I find it Ok to wear for hours and hours. The sensation on one of the alternating programs was a little like a shaft gently entering and leaving. I did find that the plug tends to burrow it’s way deeper and deeper into my body over time (particularly if I sit down). There is never any difficult removing it, due to it’s clever design, but I found that I am less sensitive the deeper it sits and the Em32 is then not powerful enough to do the job. The best option is to either never sit down while wearing it or periodically, fish it out a little (when all hell tend to break lose as it is usually on full power by then – very nice).
The “Electraloops” are soft rubber loops designed for use on men’s genitals and penis. They work OK, but can be tricky to wear for longer periods if buried in a rubber suite. As with all these devices, an understanding of basic electrical principals is handy. The Electraloops are of high resistance and I have found that you need to arrange for a short end of the loop to plug in to or insufficient power is delivered. Also, electricity tend to take the easiest path, so if your penis is against your body or a moist suit, some or all the power takes the alternative routes, tracking down the lower abdomen or wet suit. More power please!
I look at the Em32 as a proof of concept for me and I am very satisfied that this is a route worth exploring.
ElectraStim do a SensaVox which is slightly larger, more powerful, has two channels and has the ability to vary the effect according to sound (either a mic or from a CD). However, most people on the internet seem to recommend the products of Eros-Tek, the monster ET312 in particular. Eros-Tex machines tend to be powerful and with loads of programs and options. They are not cheap, but one day I think I will get one.
Anyone any experiences they want to share?
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Tuesday, June 14, 2005
Tuesday, June 14, 2005
To all that have been waiting – apologies for the delay and lack of update of this blog. My life is deliberately very unpredictable such that I never know how things are going to turn out from one month to the next. Recently, I have never known beyond a few days and sometimes a few hours what opportunities and challenges were coming my way. Great for keeping boredom at bay – but means finding time to write it up is limited.
In summary, since my last post, I have been away from home much of the time and so not been wearing rubber during the working week very often. However, only a part of my time has been spent working and I have had some excellent long sessions of breathless rubber and plastic enclosure...
The hot weather about a month ago did start to make things a little difficult for longer sessions. Things have cooled down significantly lately, which I am very glad of. When the temperature get above the mid 20s C (~ 80F) I find it less and less fun to stay in rubber for more than a few hours. Now it’s back to the low 20s C in the office, I could weep when I finally have to take off my rubber skin!
As for the future… Well typically I am in a time of great uncertainty with a mixture opportunities, some of which may - or may not - happen. My normal freelance work has almost dried up – but hopefully this is temporary. There are rumors of a big chunk of work from an existing client that may be arriving – all of which may be done from my home office – and therefore in rubber… On the other hand I am starting to get more work via my alternative career of photography. I have often wondered if there was any demand for professional quality portraits of people in their fetish outfits – private commissions for their own exclusive use. Well apparently there is, even if it is very niche. I guess people want to be immortalized in their prime or in their best outfits.
I am running out of time, but want to tell you of one of the things that I have been playing with. Once in rubber, I sometimes climb into a PVC hazmat style suit. Coupled to this is battery powered air pump. To make the suit air tight I then gaffer-tape up the entry zip. The “down” side of the tape is that getting out of the suite can be a fairly slow process. The air pump does not deliver a huge volume of air – in fact only just enough…
Part of my fun is the reliance on the small pump and it’s battery power. I have to carefully monitor the time in the suite in order that I don’t suddenly run out of battery. I have already had one dangerous incident where the batteries fell out of their compartment. I found that I was running out of air and the pump was strapped in a rubber back pack. Because the pump runs the suit’s environment at near suffocation levels normally, things started to get out of hand quickly…
In summary, since my last post, I have been away from home much of the time and so not been wearing rubber during the working week very often. However, only a part of my time has been spent working and I have had some excellent long sessions of breathless rubber and plastic enclosure...
The hot weather about a month ago did start to make things a little difficult for longer sessions. Things have cooled down significantly lately, which I am very glad of. When the temperature get above the mid 20s C (~ 80F) I find it less and less fun to stay in rubber for more than a few hours. Now it’s back to the low 20s C in the office, I could weep when I finally have to take off my rubber skin!
As for the future… Well typically I am in a time of great uncertainty with a mixture opportunities, some of which may - or may not - happen. My normal freelance work has almost dried up – but hopefully this is temporary. There are rumors of a big chunk of work from an existing client that may be arriving – all of which may be done from my home office – and therefore in rubber… On the other hand I am starting to get more work via my alternative career of photography. I have often wondered if there was any demand for professional quality portraits of people in their fetish outfits – private commissions for their own exclusive use. Well apparently there is, even if it is very niche. I guess people want to be immortalized in their prime or in their best outfits.
I am running out of time, but want to tell you of one of the things that I have been playing with. Once in rubber, I sometimes climb into a PVC hazmat style suit. Coupled to this is battery powered air pump. To make the suit air tight I then gaffer-tape up the entry zip. The “down” side of the tape is that getting out of the suite can be a fairly slow process. The air pump does not deliver a huge volume of air – in fact only just enough…
Part of my fun is the reliance on the small pump and it’s battery power. I have to carefully monitor the time in the suite in order that I don’t suddenly run out of battery. I have already had one dangerous incident where the batteries fell out of their compartment. I found that I was running out of air and the pump was strapped in a rubber back pack. Because the pump runs the suit’s environment at near suffocation levels normally, things started to get out of hand quickly…
Thursday, March 24, 2005
Thursday, March 24, 2005
Busy day today, so will be only be able to dedicate part of the day to my rubber life. No goggles and mask today, but still had time to fix up electro stimulation loops on my genitalia and a fun session in place of lunch…
Will be reporting on ElectraStim and Poppers when I have more time – maybe next week…
9 through 3pm gave a weeks total of 1320 and a balance of +45.
Will be reporting on ElectraStim and Poppers when I have more time – maybe next week…
9 through 3pm gave a weeks total of 1320 and a balance of +45.
Tuesday, March 22, 2005
Back to the more normal latex working week. I am only able to work in latex for 2 days this week so I am setting myself a pro-rata target of 1275.
I am trying out some new things though. For lubrication I am trying out J-Lube rather than pure silicone or talc I have used in the past.
I now have Electrical Stimulation devices and am trying out being electrically “plugged” today.
Also, I am trying out different brands of poppers for comparison purposes.
So if you read this fully enclosed in latex, goggled, masked, with a electro stimulating plug banging away relentlessly, while you are sniffing the sweet vapors of poppers, then you know what it feels like to be me. Welcome to my world…
Managed 9 to 5 today, so with a comfort break that’s 820 so far with 455 needed by the end of the week.
I am trying out some new things though. For lubrication I am trying out J-Lube rather than pure silicone or talc I have used in the past.
I now have Electrical Stimulation devices and am trying out being electrically “plugged” today.
Also, I am trying out different brands of poppers for comparison purposes.
So if you read this fully enclosed in latex, goggled, masked, with a electro stimulating plug banging away relentlessly, while you are sniffing the sweet vapors of poppers, then you know what it feels like to be me. Welcome to my world…
Managed 9 to 5 today, so with a comfort break that’s 820 so far with 455 needed by the end of the week.
Thursday, March 17, 2005
Wednesday, March 16, 2005
09:15
Been +28 hours now in my sealed bubble. Been working remotely via my workstation, set up in the bubble, through the small hours and so not had much time to monitor and record how I feel till now.
Pulse 70BPM, which is slower than it was midday yesterday. Breathing rate is somewhere near normal – at least when I am at rest. Although far from gasping or panting, I am more aware of my breathing and there is some irregularity to it’s pattern. I often feel like I am taking a slightly deeper breath, along the lines of a yawn – the impulse for which feels good – sort of cross between exciting and sexually stimulating.
When not at rest, even moderate movement can cause some feeling of breathlessness. Again, this is far from difficult to control and recovery is reasonably swift. However, the feeling is still very noticeable and quite delicious.
My body has a strange ache in it from head to foot, which is most noticeable at my extremities and down my sides. It’s not at all unpleasant and can only describe it as the feeling you get just before and during the time you feel you need to stretch (and yawn) when waking first thing in the morning – only this is a near constant feeling. I absolutely love this feeling.
Other than that I feel OK, although in need of some rest and possibly sleep. Of course all the above contributes to a near constant rock hard erection…
My ‘captor’ has now actually locked me in a couple of hours ago and will not return for some hour (hinted at early afternoon). I think surviving in here for a few more hours will be fun! Of course if things get desperate, I could always call them on the mobile, but then I would have to wait for maybe 30 minutes for them to make there way back. False alarms would not be kindly taken to. The element of calculated risk, danger and dependence is quite a turn on.
12:00 +29:45
I caught up on some sleep and had some nice dreams… Even when awake, I found it easy to be in half awake state with daydreams not far from my mind.
Pulse approx 70BPM
Been through several more periods of what I call re-adjustments. Where my body increases it respiratory rate to deal with the changes in the atmosphere and then gets used to it and returns to normal. The last time I was aware of this last evening, but these were slightly more noticeable.
I have entered another longer period reprise where everything returns to normal. Not sure if how long this will last. This pattern is fairly typical from my experiences, a series re-adjustment session going on to a full-on continuous breathlessness and gasping, increasing in rate. The fun start to wane somewhere in the later stages and that’s the time to bail out – while you still can!
14:15 +32hrs
Went through longer period of re-adjustment and now again in a lull – but this time the reprise is not quite as to the same extent as before.
Rather unexpectedly my captor rang (rather then call by) to say that they would not be returning until 18:30 unless things had got desperate [I said they had not] and that they would only call once more to check in hour or so. Committing for such a long extension was quite a decision to have to make. Not that I was given that much choice!
One strange thing is dealing with being so detached from the daily cycles. I went into this small lightproof airtight bubble just before dawn and spent over one and a half days and 1 full night in here while working very unusual hours and untypical sleeping patterns. My only window on the world is my computer screen. To say I am messed up and confused would be a major understatement. This has led to several times wanting to leave, so I can re-sync. So far I have avoided this temptation – but (surprisingly) it has been much harder to deal with than the current levels of O2 and inevitable CO2 build up.
16:30 +34:15hrs
My respiration rate has very slowly been increasing since last entry. Not the cycles of increase and decrease as previously. Still well under control and far from frantic, but noticeably constant and increased above the norm.
I have been able to do some quite reasonable work over last few hours, but starting to find it difficult to concentrate. Other than that I feel ok – as long as I don’t move around too much. Think I will have a rest now and maybe meditate about my situation. I will have to know in a couple of hours what to tell ask captor – do I want out, or should I ask them to keep me in for another two hours. Even if I want out, I wonder if they are going to make it that easy?
18:15 +36:00hrs
Although not completely out of control, my respiration rate is increased and I generally have a feel that I am suffocating (which you could say has been true for some time!). But know, I am feeling like I am on a slow downward cycle that will end in unconsciousness. I feel very drowsy and cannot concentrate on anything other than my breathing for any length of time and moving around is difficult. The sexual thrill is still there but probably well past it’s peak. I don’t think I want to take on another 2 hours, so will ask to be let out soon.
18:30 +36:15
I knew it was possible, but didn’t really believe it would happen. My captor will not let me out “just yet”! No word on when I will be let out, so I will have to conserve my energy, in case it turns out to be another 2 hours – which would be desperate.
19:00 +36:45
My situation is quite desperate. I don’t have energy or concentration for anything other than very gently pleasuring myself. Even with minimal effort, this keeps me just out of breath and the fear of using up all the air before I am let out stops me using sufficient effort to come.
I have considered tearing my own way out early – but this bubble is made of very strong plastic (much much stronger than the thickest plastic bag you see. Even stronger than those designed to carry rubble) and I am very weak. I have no tools and my rubber clad fingers are useless for gripping or tearing, even if had the strength. Getting out of my rubber suit would be very expensive on energy and I don’t think it would do me any good…
On the whole I am going to have to trust my captor’s judgment and just enjoy the ride. The rides not bad after all…
19:30 +37:15
My captor returned about 10 minutes ago and said I would be let out in 10. Suddenly I had plenty of energy to use up some valuable air. I did get very frantic and out of breath in the following few minutes of ‘going for it’. Knowing I didn’t have to ration the air, allowed me work myself up into a frenzy. Slapping my rubber clad form & rubbing myself into the strong material of the bubble. Really getting off on the achievement and relief. Making the most of my last chance for fun in the bubble. I was almost weeping by the time my body released it’s last load.
Now I have had time to recover, I find my breathing is just about under control and not that much above normal rates. I feel washed out, but realize that I probably would have managed to make it if it had been two hour – or even longer. The bubble is so big, the atmosphere depletes in O2 and become polluted with CO2 so slowly, that you don’t get that sudden desperate speeding up of breath, but a slow spiral of adjustment that ware you down. So, although I could go on for hours, the fun is all behind me and I am looking forward to seeing the outside world. Staying awake is the major challenge now.
I hear them coming, better late then never…
Written After The Event…
Lessons learnt.
1. 250 Micron plastic is very heavy (18Kg or 40lbs) and will squeeze air out of any microscopic holes in the seams or seam tape. So maybe supporting the weight from above with guy wires would help (as I previously tried).
2. There is a max size that is fun in practice, this bubble’s golden period was the 8 hours around the +24 hour mark, even though it was a only a quarter full after the first few hours.
3. Dehumidifiers really works well in a bubble if you don’t want to be dripping in condensation. Essential if you are going to have electrical devices in the bubble (like heating or computer terminals). Not an ounce of condensation was seen on the bubble and there were pints in the dehumidifier’s container.
4. You really do need surprising little volume of air to survive for even long periods stretching into days. Will aim to actually quantify this some time by looking through logs and experimentation.
The 37 and quarter hour experience was great and you rarely get that amount of contiguous time to dedicate to your sexual fetishes. Being captive in the bubble I had lots of time to relax, contemplate and use my imagination.
Been +28 hours now in my sealed bubble. Been working remotely via my workstation, set up in the bubble, through the small hours and so not had much time to monitor and record how I feel till now.
Pulse 70BPM, which is slower than it was midday yesterday. Breathing rate is somewhere near normal – at least when I am at rest. Although far from gasping or panting, I am more aware of my breathing and there is some irregularity to it’s pattern. I often feel like I am taking a slightly deeper breath, along the lines of a yawn – the impulse for which feels good – sort of cross between exciting and sexually stimulating.
When not at rest, even moderate movement can cause some feeling of breathlessness. Again, this is far from difficult to control and recovery is reasonably swift. However, the feeling is still very noticeable and quite delicious.
My body has a strange ache in it from head to foot, which is most noticeable at my extremities and down my sides. It’s not at all unpleasant and can only describe it as the feeling you get just before and during the time you feel you need to stretch (and yawn) when waking first thing in the morning – only this is a near constant feeling. I absolutely love this feeling.
Other than that I feel OK, although in need of some rest and possibly sleep. Of course all the above contributes to a near constant rock hard erection…
My ‘captor’ has now actually locked me in a couple of hours ago and will not return for some hour (hinted at early afternoon). I think surviving in here for a few more hours will be fun! Of course if things get desperate, I could always call them on the mobile, but then I would have to wait for maybe 30 minutes for them to make there way back. False alarms would not be kindly taken to. The element of calculated risk, danger and dependence is quite a turn on.
12:00 +29:45
I caught up on some sleep and had some nice dreams… Even when awake, I found it easy to be in half awake state with daydreams not far from my mind.
Pulse approx 70BPM
Been through several more periods of what I call re-adjustments. Where my body increases it respiratory rate to deal with the changes in the atmosphere and then gets used to it and returns to normal. The last time I was aware of this last evening, but these were slightly more noticeable.
I have entered another longer period reprise where everything returns to normal. Not sure if how long this will last. This pattern is fairly typical from my experiences, a series re-adjustment session going on to a full-on continuous breathlessness and gasping, increasing in rate. The fun start to wane somewhere in the later stages and that’s the time to bail out – while you still can!
14:15 +32hrs
Went through longer period of re-adjustment and now again in a lull – but this time the reprise is not quite as to the same extent as before.
Rather unexpectedly my captor rang (rather then call by) to say that they would not be returning until 18:30 unless things had got desperate [I said they had not] and that they would only call once more to check in hour or so. Committing for such a long extension was quite a decision to have to make. Not that I was given that much choice!
One strange thing is dealing with being so detached from the daily cycles. I went into this small lightproof airtight bubble just before dawn and spent over one and a half days and 1 full night in here while working very unusual hours and untypical sleeping patterns. My only window on the world is my computer screen. To say I am messed up and confused would be a major understatement. This has led to several times wanting to leave, so I can re-sync. So far I have avoided this temptation – but (surprisingly) it has been much harder to deal with than the current levels of O2 and inevitable CO2 build up.
16:30 +34:15hrs
My respiration rate has very slowly been increasing since last entry. Not the cycles of increase and decrease as previously. Still well under control and far from frantic, but noticeably constant and increased above the norm.
I have been able to do some quite reasonable work over last few hours, but starting to find it difficult to concentrate. Other than that I feel ok – as long as I don’t move around too much. Think I will have a rest now and maybe meditate about my situation. I will have to know in a couple of hours what to tell ask captor – do I want out, or should I ask them to keep me in for another two hours. Even if I want out, I wonder if they are going to make it that easy?
18:15 +36:00hrs
Although not completely out of control, my respiration rate is increased and I generally have a feel that I am suffocating (which you could say has been true for some time!). But know, I am feeling like I am on a slow downward cycle that will end in unconsciousness. I feel very drowsy and cannot concentrate on anything other than my breathing for any length of time and moving around is difficult. The sexual thrill is still there but probably well past it’s peak. I don’t think I want to take on another 2 hours, so will ask to be let out soon.
18:30 +36:15
I knew it was possible, but didn’t really believe it would happen. My captor will not let me out “just yet”! No word on when I will be let out, so I will have to conserve my energy, in case it turns out to be another 2 hours – which would be desperate.
19:00 +36:45
My situation is quite desperate. I don’t have energy or concentration for anything other than very gently pleasuring myself. Even with minimal effort, this keeps me just out of breath and the fear of using up all the air before I am let out stops me using sufficient effort to come.
I have considered tearing my own way out early – but this bubble is made of very strong plastic (much much stronger than the thickest plastic bag you see. Even stronger than those designed to carry rubble) and I am very weak. I have no tools and my rubber clad fingers are useless for gripping or tearing, even if had the strength. Getting out of my rubber suit would be very expensive on energy and I don’t think it would do me any good…
On the whole I am going to have to trust my captor’s judgment and just enjoy the ride. The rides not bad after all…
19:30 +37:15
My captor returned about 10 minutes ago and said I would be let out in 10. Suddenly I had plenty of energy to use up some valuable air. I did get very frantic and out of breath in the following few minutes of ‘going for it’. Knowing I didn’t have to ration the air, allowed me work myself up into a frenzy. Slapping my rubber clad form & rubbing myself into the strong material of the bubble. Really getting off on the achievement and relief. Making the most of my last chance for fun in the bubble. I was almost weeping by the time my body released it’s last load.
Now I have had time to recover, I find my breathing is just about under control and not that much above normal rates. I feel washed out, but realize that I probably would have managed to make it if it had been two hour – or even longer. The bubble is so big, the atmosphere depletes in O2 and become polluted with CO2 so slowly, that you don’t get that sudden desperate speeding up of breath, but a slow spiral of adjustment that ware you down. So, although I could go on for hours, the fun is all behind me and I am looking forward to seeing the outside world. Staying awake is the major challenge now.
I hear them coming, better late then never…
Written After The Event…
Lessons learnt.
1. 250 Micron plastic is very heavy (18Kg or 40lbs) and will squeeze air out of any microscopic holes in the seams or seam tape. So maybe supporting the weight from above with guy wires would help (as I previously tried).
2. There is a max size that is fun in practice, this bubble’s golden period was the 8 hours around the +24 hour mark, even though it was a only a quarter full after the first few hours.
3. Dehumidifiers really works well in a bubble if you don’t want to be dripping in condensation. Essential if you are going to have electrical devices in the bubble (like heating or computer terminals). Not an ounce of condensation was seen on the bubble and there were pints in the dehumidifier’s container.
4. You really do need surprising little volume of air to survive for even long periods stretching into days. Will aim to actually quantify this some time by looking through logs and experimentation.
The 37 and quarter hour experience was great and you rarely get that amount of contiguous time to dedicate to your sexual fetishes. Being captive in the bubble I had lots of time to relax, contemplate and use my imagination.
Wednesday, March 16, 2005
Tuesday, March 15, 2005
05:15 Bubble #110
Finally finished preparation and building new bubble. Entered and sealed air lock exit for a trial run.
This bubble is a little more robust in style than ones I have made in past and so is a little bit of an experiment. It’s made from 250 micron thick black membrane. This is totally light proof and so lighting is laid on inside.
The main structure of the bubble is made of 3 sheets of the membrane with taped seams. In addition there is a air-lock structure made from a 4th sheet, which forms a 4m entry tube which can be sealed at both ends.
The nominal dimensions of the main structure are 2.75m x 4m x 2.25m, giving a volume of more than 24 Sq M. I don’t have an exact system of estimating endurance for a given volume, but looking at earlier log entries, I am hoping for 2 to 2.5 days.
Will write up more about the other trial items in this bubble later one…
09:15 +4 hours
Overnight the bag lost most of it’s volume. There must be a leak. Given the length of seams this is not that unexpected – particularly given that most are only taped on one side.
Later I will re-inflate and go over every seam and fix all the leaks. In the mean time, I think I will continue with what I have to see if there are any other things to learn.
The air is still very breathable and comfortable. The built-in thermostatic heating and the dehumidifier are keeping things pleasant so far.
12:00 +6:45
Sometime mid-morning I couldn’t help myself from getting turned on in my rubber suit, inside my plastic bubble. I was really trying to last out till later but just couldn’t stop myself filling my suit with semen… Didn’t help that someone mailed me a link to a new (commercial) breath play site (www.o2extreme.com).
By the way, I should point out that the bubble is large enough for my work desk monitor etc to fit in here with me. So I am actually able to work while slowly suffocating…
Speaking of which, only very early signs of any change to the quality of air in here. Pulse 76->80BPM (have not measured it recently, so not sure what it normally is, but this seems just a little high for me). Breathing is near normal.
19:15 +14hrs
After working through the day, I knocked off early and spent the last few hours catching up on sleep. During this time I was aware that the air quality was starting to change. This went through the classic pattern I have seen before when it happens when I am resting and not moving about. What happens is over time your body adjusts to it, so you get periods where your respiration rate increases slightly and then returns to normal, all by itself. During these periods, you can start to get strange feelings in the rest of you body, such as a sort of ache in the limbs or tingling deep in your abdomen. I go through several of these periods and then you can even get a long reprise where you stay apparently unaffected for a long period. This is roughly were I am now.
Incidentally, I never carried out the repairs to the bubble, which has leaked out much of the air until it formed a dome and could support it’s own weight without forcing the air through the small defects in the seams. So, I am in just a fraction of the volume of air the bubble is capable of – say a quarter. Even so, there seems to be plenty for a fairly long session and may even make 18 to 24 hours yet. The full bubble would have been able to support me for days – maybe longer than I have time available this time.
Speaking of time, it just so happens that I am going to working unsociable hours for – i.e. overnight and on call. So what better way to be deploying my software than doing it from my desk in my fetish bubble! I only hope the air doesn’t get interesting (run out) when I am too busy to appreciate it...
Finally finished preparation and building new bubble. Entered and sealed air lock exit for a trial run.
This bubble is a little more robust in style than ones I have made in past and so is a little bit of an experiment. It’s made from 250 micron thick black membrane. This is totally light proof and so lighting is laid on inside.
The main structure of the bubble is made of 3 sheets of the membrane with taped seams. In addition there is a air-lock structure made from a 4th sheet, which forms a 4m entry tube which can be sealed at both ends.
The nominal dimensions of the main structure are 2.75m x 4m x 2.25m, giving a volume of more than 24 Sq M. I don’t have an exact system of estimating endurance for a given volume, but looking at earlier log entries, I am hoping for 2 to 2.5 days.
Will write up more about the other trial items in this bubble later one…
09:15 +4 hours
Overnight the bag lost most of it’s volume. There must be a leak. Given the length of seams this is not that unexpected – particularly given that most are only taped on one side.
Later I will re-inflate and go over every seam and fix all the leaks. In the mean time, I think I will continue with what I have to see if there are any other things to learn.
The air is still very breathable and comfortable. The built-in thermostatic heating and the dehumidifier are keeping things pleasant so far.
12:00 +6:45
Sometime mid-morning I couldn’t help myself from getting turned on in my rubber suit, inside my plastic bubble. I was really trying to last out till later but just couldn’t stop myself filling my suit with semen… Didn’t help that someone mailed me a link to a new (commercial) breath play site (www.o2extreme.com).
By the way, I should point out that the bubble is large enough for my work desk monitor etc to fit in here with me. So I am actually able to work while slowly suffocating…
Speaking of which, only very early signs of any change to the quality of air in here. Pulse 76->80BPM (have not measured it recently, so not sure what it normally is, but this seems just a little high for me). Breathing is near normal.
19:15 +14hrs
After working through the day, I knocked off early and spent the last few hours catching up on sleep. During this time I was aware that the air quality was starting to change. This went through the classic pattern I have seen before when it happens when I am resting and not moving about. What happens is over time your body adjusts to it, so you get periods where your respiration rate increases slightly and then returns to normal, all by itself. During these periods, you can start to get strange feelings in the rest of you body, such as a sort of ache in the limbs or tingling deep in your abdomen. I go through several of these periods and then you can even get a long reprise where you stay apparently unaffected for a long period. This is roughly were I am now.
Incidentally, I never carried out the repairs to the bubble, which has leaked out much of the air until it formed a dome and could support it’s own weight without forcing the air through the small defects in the seams. So, I am in just a fraction of the volume of air the bubble is capable of – say a quarter. Even so, there seems to be plenty for a fairly long session and may even make 18 to 24 hours yet. The full bubble would have been able to support me for days – maybe longer than I have time available this time.
Speaking of time, it just so happens that I am going to working unsociable hours for – i.e. overnight and on call. So what better way to be deploying my software than doing it from my desk in my fetish bubble! I only hope the air doesn’t get interesting (run out) when I am too busy to appreciate it...
Tuesday, March 15, 2005
Monday. March 14. 2005
Ok, this weeks going to be different. I am still going to be working from home while wearing rubber toe to foot, but I am also going to be trying out a few other ideas that are going to consume a fair bit of time (I am avoiding calling them endurance tasks as this is only part of the idea) and so commenting more on my non-work time than usual.
A lot of planning, buying and construction is necessary, so unfortunately today is not a rubber play day. However, I should mention that I spent yesterday evening playing in a PVC Hazmat-type fetish suit from PVC-u-like – to acclimatize to the breath control I will be undertaking this week. The suit can be coupled up to an air pump or you can use it without and regulate the amount of fresh air that is let in via the entry zip. I have done both, but chose to spend the night in the suit with a gap of between 2 and 3 inches in the zip. It’s quite possible to go down to 1 inch, but that is too intense for longer periods.
It got very wet in there with all the condensation from breathing, but was OK other than that. The controlled re-breathing felt great and I managed to sleep for some of the night. I find the thought of waking up, struggling for breath to be very stimulating. The calculated risk of never waking up at all, also adds a certain something too.
I managed to make the night out without submitting to my near constant erection. During the night I dreamt very vivid dreams about meeting up with one of my fetish correspondents at some sort of sex club or private orgy or suchlike. Anyway, when they came across me panting away and struggling for air in my suit, they were turned on and proceeded to mount me and have fun with my virtually helpless body.
In the morning I did allow myself to re-live the dream and it was intense.
During the day, I gathered the materials for the big bubble experiment. In the evening I started construction, which would take me through the night.
A lot of planning, buying and construction is necessary, so unfortunately today is not a rubber play day. However, I should mention that I spent yesterday evening playing in a PVC Hazmat-type fetish suit from PVC-u-like – to acclimatize to the breath control I will be undertaking this week. The suit can be coupled up to an air pump or you can use it without and regulate the amount of fresh air that is let in via the entry zip. I have done both, but chose to spend the night in the suit with a gap of between 2 and 3 inches in the zip. It’s quite possible to go down to 1 inch, but that is too intense for longer periods.
It got very wet in there with all the condensation from breathing, but was OK other than that. The controlled re-breathing felt great and I managed to sleep for some of the night. I find the thought of waking up, struggling for breath to be very stimulating. The calculated risk of never waking up at all, also adds a certain something too.
I managed to make the night out without submitting to my near constant erection. During the night I dreamt very vivid dreams about meeting up with one of my fetish correspondents at some sort of sex club or private orgy or suchlike. Anyway, when they came across me panting away and struggling for air in my suit, they were turned on and proceeded to mount me and have fun with my virtually helpless body.
In the morning I did allow myself to re-live the dream and it was intense.
During the day, I gathered the materials for the big bubble experiment. In the evening I started construction, which would take me through the night.
Tuesday, March 08, 2005
Tuesday, March 08, 2005
The good news is that my rubber home working lifestyle is back on. I have secured a good month’s worth of work I intend doing from home. The only thing is that this week is just too complex to plan and so I will probably not be able to set targets. I am working from home all week in rubber, it’s just I have all sorts of trips out, meetings and other commitments that mean it’s tricky to predict. However, when I can wear rubber I do wear it. Yesterday, I managed to find time to work for about 4 or 5 hours in rubber and today I will probably have 5 or 6 hours to do the same.
Before next week everything should be back to normal. And speaking of next week, I am still planning on some sort of “Marathon” session. If all goes to plan I intend to attempt to beat the 28 hours I did the other week. I have done several longer sessions than this before, but never during a working week.
I want to add breath control / bagging into the mix for the long session too. I have always been into plastic bags and various types of bag play. It’s all connected to the core fetish – the desire to be in my own sealed world. The dilemma of wanting to be sealed up to such a degree that you have very little scope for endurance (or long term survival!) is incredibly erotic for me… I find seeing others (men or women) in this state a huge turn on too.
One of my oldest fetishes is the idea of living in a large rubber or plastic bubble, totally sealed so no air can get in or out. I have even lived out this notion in a large number of experiments over the years, some of which I documented in a Log book. Looking back through the book gives me new ideas to try out and is also very stimulating. As the O2 runs out and CO2 builds up, the entries change. The hand writing often changes and the experience recounted gets more intense. Many of these logs document sessions well over 24 hours and some of my enclosures allowed survival times of over a week!
One day I may write up some of these log books (if anyone is interested), but in the mean time I am planning such a session in next week or two and so watch this space…
It interests me that I found relatively little written on the web about such sessions and yet we know lots of people are into this sort of thing. Maybe someone reading this is into bag play and will comment back…
I know some of my readers will think that I am advocating very dangerous practices and I am going to say right here that they are 100% right. There is no safe level of suffocation and many people die every year performing milder sessions than the ones I suggest. The chances of falling unconscious and dieing are significant. I am not going to justify it and can just say it’s my choice. If it makes it easier to understand, maybe I get off on the dangers (a bit like thrill seekers and extreme sports enthusiasts). It’s more complex than that, but it’s certainly become part of the excitement. Anyway, there is plenty already on the web about the dangers, so I intend concentrating on the “what” & “when” side of the subject (which is underrepresented) rather than dwelling on the “why” and “why not” aspect.
Before next week everything should be back to normal. And speaking of next week, I am still planning on some sort of “Marathon” session. If all goes to plan I intend to attempt to beat the 28 hours I did the other week. I have done several longer sessions than this before, but never during a working week.
I want to add breath control / bagging into the mix for the long session too. I have always been into plastic bags and various types of bag play. It’s all connected to the core fetish – the desire to be in my own sealed world. The dilemma of wanting to be sealed up to such a degree that you have very little scope for endurance (or long term survival!) is incredibly erotic for me… I find seeing others (men or women) in this state a huge turn on too.
One of my oldest fetishes is the idea of living in a large rubber or plastic bubble, totally sealed so no air can get in or out. I have even lived out this notion in a large number of experiments over the years, some of which I documented in a Log book. Looking back through the book gives me new ideas to try out and is also very stimulating. As the O2 runs out and CO2 builds up, the entries change. The hand writing often changes and the experience recounted gets more intense. Many of these logs document sessions well over 24 hours and some of my enclosures allowed survival times of over a week!
One day I may write up some of these log books (if anyone is interested), but in the mean time I am planning such a session in next week or two and so watch this space…
It interests me that I found relatively little written on the web about such sessions and yet we know lots of people are into this sort of thing. Maybe someone reading this is into bag play and will comment back…
I know some of my readers will think that I am advocating very dangerous practices and I am going to say right here that they are 100% right. There is no safe level of suffocation and many people die every year performing milder sessions than the ones I suggest. The chances of falling unconscious and dieing are significant. I am not going to justify it and can just say it’s my choice. If it makes it easier to understand, maybe I get off on the dangers (a bit like thrill seekers and extreme sports enthusiasts). It’s more complex than that, but it’s certainly become part of the excitement. Anyway, there is plenty already on the web about the dangers, so I intend concentrating on the “what” & “when” side of the subject (which is underrepresented) rather than dwelling on the “why” and “why not” aspect.
Friday, March 04, 2005
Friday, March 04, 2005
Things have changed in my working life for a while, which may bring a temporary end to my rubber working life style. It also delayed writing up last Friday – which basically went like this ….
…It was going to be tuff to meet the target today. I didn’t think I would manage it, but with a session from 9 to 5 in full suit, including goggles and mask, I just scraped home with +6 points! It didn’t fit my plans for the day to stay in rubber till gone 5pm, but when I saw the opportunity to get back on track, I had to take it. So I just about managed to work off my deficit in one week – which was just as well…
Anyway, back to the present and as I said, things are on hold for the rubber working and I don’t have a date for when things will get back on track. However, if all goes to plan, it looks like I will have the opportunity for a one-off special some time during the next couple of weeks or so. Not sure what form this will take, but probably be an extended latex session, or some opportunity to wear latex while out, or some long duration breath play (maybe a combination!).
One idea is to repeat some of my long term “big” bag play session, where I construct a huge bag – as big as a room, inflate it and seal myself in to see how long I can survive in there. Some of the sessions went on for days! Dangerous stuff, but that’s maybe half the point of it…
…It was going to be tuff to meet the target today. I didn’t think I would manage it, but with a session from 9 to 5 in full suit, including goggles and mask, I just scraped home with +6 points! It didn’t fit my plans for the day to stay in rubber till gone 5pm, but when I saw the opportunity to get back on track, I had to take it. So I just about managed to work off my deficit in one week – which was just as well…
Anyway, back to the present and as I said, things are on hold for the rubber working and I don’t have a date for when things will get back on track. However, if all goes to plan, it looks like I will have the opportunity for a one-off special some time during the next couple of weeks or so. Not sure what form this will take, but probably be an extended latex session, or some opportunity to wear latex while out, or some long duration breath play (maybe a combination!).
One idea is to repeat some of my long term “big” bag play session, where I construct a huge bag – as big as a room, inflate it and seal myself in to see how long I can survive in there. Some of the sessions went on for days! Dangerous stuff, but that’s maybe half the point of it…
Thursday, February 24, 2005
Thursday, February 24, 2005
Going to be a short entry today, due to pressure of work. I did manage to get into my rubber for 9AM, but am having to bail out at 4PM as I need to go out…
Had a comfortable day in rubber, if busy (with work). Did get some brief time to play at lunchtime and tried out some new breath play and popper play ideas that I will develop, and report on some day. Staying in rubber after climax is still the most difficult part of the experiment, but somehow I just manage to keep true to the rubber lifestyle…
The running totals show that a current balance of -846, which will be tricky to make tomorrow with all else that I need to do… Slightly worried I may miss my target again and incur more rubber interest!
Had a comfortable day in rubber, if busy (with work). Did get some brief time to play at lunchtime and tried out some new breath play and popper play ideas that I will develop, and report on some day. Staying in rubber after climax is still the most difficult part of the experiment, but somehow I just manage to keep true to the rubber lifestyle…
The running totals show that a current balance of -846, which will be tricky to make tomorrow with all else that I need to do… Slightly worried I may miss my target again and incur more rubber interest!
Tuesday, February 22, 2005
Tuesday, February 22, 2005
0900
Wow – a whole week without rubber. Not nice. Had a very successful week from a business point of view, but felt like I could cry by Friday. The extra exposure the previous week helped for the first few days, but I am certainly glad to be back in rubber today.
Speaking of the week before last, it’s time to reckon up. I actually spent well over 28 hours in rubber. For the majority if this time I was in total enclosure with not an inch of my body exposed. However this did not in itself make for a good points score. In fact I actually came out of it with a deficit of 185.5 points!!!
Now in retrospect, it seams that there ought to be an incentive for spending whole days in rubber – while not being to great as to be a disincentive for spending my working days in rubber. I think there should be a 24 hour bonus in addition to the consecutive work day bonus – but am hoping that you (my readers) will give me some suggestions as to the number of points which should be allocated.
But for now – I must stick to the rules which I set for the week. Here is how it worked, from a points perspective, Wednesday did not count as I was not working in my rubber – despite spending 8 hours before midnight. Similarly, Thursday midnight to 08:30 did not count as it was recreation time and not work time. However, I did qualify for the 100 point contiguous day bonus. Also, I did not need a comfort break during working time. I did get massively turned during the session, but only one time did I lose control during work time and actually came. I did manage to do an extra long work day (11.5 hours) – probably spurred on because I would not be able/willing(?) to spend time in rubber the next day.
Totals for week before last:
Suit & Hood = 11.5*100*=1150
Goggles =10*11.5=115
mask 5*11.5= 57.5
re-breather 25*0=0
Temp Bonus (above*(1+(0.25*0))=0
Contig. Day Bonus=1*100=100
Comfort Breaks=-50*0=-0
Ejaculation= - 100*1= -100
So far today= 1322.5
Week before today= 550
Total for week so far= 1872.5
Target=2058
Balance= -185.5
So what about this week?
Well, if I don’t make my target there has to be some consequences – while recognizing that my opportunity for staying in rubber is, unfortunately, not limitless. The first thing that happens is that any shortfall is carried over to the following week(s) with 10% interest added on. However, because the target was not reached – it was probably too high. So the following weeks target is reduced by 80% of the shortfall. So that if the target was 2058 and I miss it by 185.5, the new target is 1910 with -204 carried over. This means I would have to earn 1910 points next week as a minimum and hopefully earn 2114 to avoid yet more interest on the remainder.
Now, you may think that this may not sound like enough of an incentive to meet the target but that’s now really the point. Firstly, I am having to publish my failure to my rubber peers – which is the real punishment. Also, am not going to want to continually run a deficit, as there is 10% interest, as well as the indignity to consider. So although I am going to have work hard to pay back the deficit in the next week (or two), at least the target will be achievable once I have paid off my rubber debt.
16:00
Really enjoying today. It’s been easy to get used to being back in rubber and it just feels wonderful. Maybe, too wonderful, as I don’t seem to able to get enough of it. I had an excellent bag play session during my lunch break, going wild in my steamed up bag. Managed to make it last a fair while, but ever since, rather than being satisfied, I have been wanting more …
1700
Enough for today… Points summarized: Total for week so far (with all bonus and charges carried over)= 496, Weeks Target= 1910, Balance= -1414
Wow – a whole week without rubber. Not nice. Had a very successful week from a business point of view, but felt like I could cry by Friday. The extra exposure the previous week helped for the first few days, but I am certainly glad to be back in rubber today.
Speaking of the week before last, it’s time to reckon up. I actually spent well over 28 hours in rubber. For the majority if this time I was in total enclosure with not an inch of my body exposed. However this did not in itself make for a good points score. In fact I actually came out of it with a deficit of 185.5 points!!!
Now in retrospect, it seams that there ought to be an incentive for spending whole days in rubber – while not being to great as to be a disincentive for spending my working days in rubber. I think there should be a 24 hour bonus in addition to the consecutive work day bonus – but am hoping that you (my readers) will give me some suggestions as to the number of points which should be allocated.
But for now – I must stick to the rules which I set for the week. Here is how it worked, from a points perspective, Wednesday did not count as I was not working in my rubber – despite spending 8 hours before midnight. Similarly, Thursday midnight to 08:30 did not count as it was recreation time and not work time. However, I did qualify for the 100 point contiguous day bonus. Also, I did not need a comfort break during working time. I did get massively turned during the session, but only one time did I lose control during work time and actually came. I did manage to do an extra long work day (11.5 hours) – probably spurred on because I would not be able/willing(?) to spend time in rubber the next day.
Totals for week before last:
Suit & Hood = 11.5*100*=1150
Goggles =10*11.5=115
mask 5*11.5= 57.5
re-breather 25*0=0
Temp Bonus (above*(1+(0.25*0))=0
Contig. Day Bonus=1*100=100
Comfort Breaks=-50*0=-0
Ejaculation= - 100*1= -100
So far today= 1322.5
Week before today= 550
Total for week so far= 1872.5
Target=2058
Balance= -185.5
So what about this week?
Well, if I don’t make my target there has to be some consequences – while recognizing that my opportunity for staying in rubber is, unfortunately, not limitless. The first thing that happens is that any shortfall is carried over to the following week(s) with 10% interest added on. However, because the target was not reached – it was probably too high. So the following weeks target is reduced by 80% of the shortfall. So that if the target was 2058 and I miss it by 185.5, the new target is 1910 with -204 carried over. This means I would have to earn 1910 points next week as a minimum and hopefully earn 2114 to avoid yet more interest on the remainder.
Now, you may think that this may not sound like enough of an incentive to meet the target but that’s now really the point. Firstly, I am having to publish my failure to my rubber peers – which is the real punishment. Also, am not going to want to continually run a deficit, as there is 10% interest, as well as the indignity to consider. So although I am going to have work hard to pay back the deficit in the next week (or two), at least the target will be achievable once I have paid off my rubber debt.
16:00
Really enjoying today. It’s been easy to get used to being back in rubber and it just feels wonderful. Maybe, too wonderful, as I don’t seem to able to get enough of it. I had an excellent bag play session during my lunch break, going wild in my steamed up bag. Managed to make it last a fair while, but ever since, rather than being satisfied, I have been wanting more …
1700
Enough for today… Points summarized: Total for week so far (with all bonus and charges carried over)= 496, Weeks Target= 1910, Balance= -1414
Friday, February 11, 2005
Thursday 10:30
The urges get to great for me and I find myself turned on by my own predicament. More than 18 hours in here and just seems to get more erotic over time. I break off work and sort myself out. Taking to poppers this time to complete the rubbery trip. They send my respiration wild and I lose any ability to slow things down. Intense.
16:00 (24 hours)
Earlier in the afternoon, I decided I would only have to last to 1600 before I could leave and get on with other aspects of my life. I really felt I had probably had nothing more to gain in staying encased in rubber. I really wanted out so set myself the 24 hour target.
But now it’s here, I just don’t want to leave. It’s interesting how I have these occasional lows where I want to bail out. As long as they are not near a time where I would feel justified in getting out of the rubber (like at the end of the working day, before I go to bed, meal times etc) I seem to be able to deal with it by setting a target a few hours away.
My libido is back again and slowly taking over from my work. It’s nice having that drive there and trying to keep it off the boil, while I try to concentrate on my work.
I have not eaten or drunk anything since yesterday (it’s just not possible when sealed up, without breaking the “seal” so to speak). It’s interesting to note that I have only needed to relieve myself a couple of times and not at all in the last 8 hours. Things seem to be slowing down for my body.
The rubber suit is staying quite comfortable still. It seems that anything that may be uncomfortable will manifest itself in the first 8 to 10 hours It feels relatively dry in here, despite everything. So, I think I am good for a few hours yet I think.
20:00 (+28 Hours)
The last few hours has been a challenge – just from exhaustion and a head ache (that is actually coming from my neck) that has steadily increased. I think I have reached my limit for this session so am bailing out. The limit seems to be mainly physiological – pretty much a desire to get out and meet some people…
Post script – on removing the suit I found that it was indeed fairly dry. Considering the time I had been in there I was surprised. Also, I had not developed any skin irritation or major redness from pressure points and the like. Just the odd temporary skin impression from seams you would get from wearing any tight clothes (like underwear). The only other thing I notices was my hands were very pale – but not at all wrinkled as they would be if wet.
So in these types of conditions (winter in a temperate zone), the real limits on the length of time you can wear rubber is going to be physiological and to some degree personal hygiene. Although rubber does not take on odor like normal materials (or emit it), there is going to be a personal limit on what state you want your body to be in.
The physiological aspects are difficult to pin down. They seem to be partly the isolating affects of TE. For example, going out to the restaurant is a not an attractive or practical possibility if you are 100% enclosed in latex for me. I guess this would be helped if you lived with other rubber centric people.
I think there are other things too – which I could characterize as more cultural or habitual associations. There are things you grow to take for granted in life, like the routine cycles of your day or things you day every week, which may be disrupted by wearing latex TE. I suspect these things could be overcome if the dedication to an entirely rubber life was total. But the question is, when you can have a life which could afford a generous amount of dedicated quality rubber time, would you really want a totally 100% rubber life if one was possible?
I for one am still not sure of the answer…
16:00 (24 hours)
Earlier in the afternoon, I decided I would only have to last to 1600 before I could leave and get on with other aspects of my life. I really felt I had probably had nothing more to gain in staying encased in rubber. I really wanted out so set myself the 24 hour target.
But now it’s here, I just don’t want to leave. It’s interesting how I have these occasional lows where I want to bail out. As long as they are not near a time where I would feel justified in getting out of the rubber (like at the end of the working day, before I go to bed, meal times etc) I seem to be able to deal with it by setting a target a few hours away.
My libido is back again and slowly taking over from my work. It’s nice having that drive there and trying to keep it off the boil, while I try to concentrate on my work.
I have not eaten or drunk anything since yesterday (it’s just not possible when sealed up, without breaking the “seal” so to speak). It’s interesting to note that I have only needed to relieve myself a couple of times and not at all in the last 8 hours. Things seem to be slowing down for my body.
The rubber suit is staying quite comfortable still. It seems that anything that may be uncomfortable will manifest itself in the first 8 to 10 hours It feels relatively dry in here, despite everything. So, I think I am good for a few hours yet I think.
20:00 (+28 Hours)
The last few hours has been a challenge – just from exhaustion and a head ache (that is actually coming from my neck) that has steadily increased. I think I have reached my limit for this session so am bailing out. The limit seems to be mainly physiological – pretty much a desire to get out and meet some people…
Post script – on removing the suit I found that it was indeed fairly dry. Considering the time I had been in there I was surprised. Also, I had not developed any skin irritation or major redness from pressure points and the like. Just the odd temporary skin impression from seams you would get from wearing any tight clothes (like underwear). The only other thing I notices was my hands were very pale – but not at all wrinkled as they would be if wet.
So in these types of conditions (winter in a temperate zone), the real limits on the length of time you can wear rubber is going to be physiological and to some degree personal hygiene. Although rubber does not take on odor like normal materials (or emit it), there is going to be a personal limit on what state you want your body to be in.
The physiological aspects are difficult to pin down. They seem to be partly the isolating affects of TE. For example, going out to the restaurant is a not an attractive or practical possibility if you are 100% enclosed in latex for me. I guess this would be helped if you lived with other rubber centric people.
I think there are other things too – which I could characterize as more cultural or habitual associations. There are things you grow to take for granted in life, like the routine cycles of your day or things you day every week, which may be disrupted by wearing latex TE. I suspect these things could be overcome if the dedication to an entirely rubber life was total. But the question is, when you can have a life which could afford a generous amount of dedicated quality rubber time, would you really want a totally 100% rubber life if one was possible?
I for one am still not sure of the answer…
Thursday, February 10, 2005
20:30 (+4:30) (Wednesday, February 09, 2005)
20:30
I gradually turned up the amount of re-breathing I was doing during the first few hours and reached a the maximum I felt that can be sustained for longer sessions at about 08:00. I love playing around with re-breathing masks & bags. Something I have been regularly practicing since childhood.
There are different styles to this sort of play. There is the frantic short sessions, right through to the longer sessions. I generally have a preference for long sessions with milder levels of re-breathing. The trick is to adjust things so that you are constantly forced to take deep breaths at an above average frequency, but let in enough fresh air into the system that your breath does not go out of control.
00:00 (+8:00)
I had a great evening of being fully encased and breath play. I had a powerful erection for hours. I particularly remember a 4 hour segment where I was constantly on the edge of orgasm. Holding back the ejaculation was very deliciously difficult – and it felt like a big disappointment to me when I finally failed to stem the flow, so early in my first evening (around 9 or 10pm). It felt like nothing would be quite the same in my rubber encapsulation for the rest of my time in my suit – but of course this feeling started to lift within the hour and, a couple of hours later, I felt so comfortable that you would have had to pay me to get out of here.
While “recovering”, I had time out from the bag play, but now it’s time to don another fun hood and go to bed. The hood is a black rubber, loose fitting, re-breathing hood. It has no eye holes and just a group of small holes around the mouth area to let some air in. A rubber belt secured it around the neck. All this went over my normal hood I have been wearing for 8 hours now.
The hood is fairly tame when worn as intended, but for more extreme breath play I often wear it so the air holes do not directly line up with my mouth. However, I intend to sleep in it so I am going to wear it lined up correctly. [Obviously breath play while asleep can be very dangerous and should only be attempted by experienced people, with supervision of another and with very mild levels of breath play. Don’t write in warning me – I already know the risks and have for many, many years now.]. Now mild as it is, I know from other attempts it will be plenty enough to try to sleep through. For me there is nothing better than the feeling I get of falling asleep or half waking with my respiratory system gently working away at making the most of the re-breathed air (for best effect, it needs to be just noticeable that it is having to work at it – not gasping).
Thursday 08:30 (+16:30)
Here I am starting work and I have already been in my suit for effectively 2 man days. I will tale the advice of Blackie and work out the points later…
I had a reasonable night, considering I was totally encased in rubber and wearing two hoods, the outer one being the re-breathing hood. The inner hood did cause me some problems as it pulls my lower jaw in slightly, which causes me some periodic breathing troubles as I fall asleep. The re-breather was plenty effective enough to keep my respiration rates up on normal. I countered this by forcing myself to stay awake till the small hours after a tough day, so that I would be ready to sleep heavily. This worked and I soon dropped off.
However, it was never going to be an uninterrupted sleep and several times and hour, my inner hood would win the elastic battle to bring my jaw in and would start restricting my breath – this was like a time-bomb attached to a snore. I would wake just enough to notice the “snore” and reposition my jaw or whole head to get free flow again. While this was happening, I would be aware of the effects of re-breathing – which was perversely delicious, although I could have done without the inner hood restricting my air flow.
Next time I will allow myself to take off the inner hood if I am going to wear the re-breathing hood to bed.
The erotic cycle of gagging, waking and finding myself in my rubber situation became more stimulating in the early morning. I found myself in a half awake state, working hard to breath and this dangerous erotic state became unbelievably stimulating. Eventually I could take no more and found myself writhing about uncontrollably and, as I came round, I erupted ferociously in my suit.
It was about 5am, so I decided to take off the outer hood as I had the feeling that I was so stimulated that I was ready to repeat the performance before day break and I needed at least some sleep.
Now I am up, I can report that I am quite comfortable in my suit. I am wearing goggles and filter mask over my hood, so totally sealed in and feeling ready for a day in latex. The only problems I have to report is that I have right ear is feeling the pressure of the hood and is a little painful sometimes. I hope this does not get worse as the day goes on.
I gradually turned up the amount of re-breathing I was doing during the first few hours and reached a the maximum I felt that can be sustained for longer sessions at about 08:00. I love playing around with re-breathing masks & bags. Something I have been regularly practicing since childhood.
There are different styles to this sort of play. There is the frantic short sessions, right through to the longer sessions. I generally have a preference for long sessions with milder levels of re-breathing. The trick is to adjust things so that you are constantly forced to take deep breaths at an above average frequency, but let in enough fresh air into the system that your breath does not go out of control.
00:00 (+8:00)
I had a great evening of being fully encased and breath play. I had a powerful erection for hours. I particularly remember a 4 hour segment where I was constantly on the edge of orgasm. Holding back the ejaculation was very deliciously difficult – and it felt like a big disappointment to me when I finally failed to stem the flow, so early in my first evening (around 9 or 10pm). It felt like nothing would be quite the same in my rubber encapsulation for the rest of my time in my suit – but of course this feeling started to lift within the hour and, a couple of hours later, I felt so comfortable that you would have had to pay me to get out of here.
While “recovering”, I had time out from the bag play, but now it’s time to don another fun hood and go to bed. The hood is a black rubber, loose fitting, re-breathing hood. It has no eye holes and just a group of small holes around the mouth area to let some air in. A rubber belt secured it around the neck. All this went over my normal hood I have been wearing for 8 hours now.
The hood is fairly tame when worn as intended, but for more extreme breath play I often wear it so the air holes do not directly line up with my mouth. However, I intend to sleep in it so I am going to wear it lined up correctly. [Obviously breath play while asleep can be very dangerous and should only be attempted by experienced people, with supervision of another and with very mild levels of breath play. Don’t write in warning me – I already know the risks and have for many, many years now.]. Now mild as it is, I know from other attempts it will be plenty enough to try to sleep through. For me there is nothing better than the feeling I get of falling asleep or half waking with my respiratory system gently working away at making the most of the re-breathed air (for best effect, it needs to be just noticeable that it is having to work at it – not gasping).
Thursday 08:30 (+16:30)
Here I am starting work and I have already been in my suit for effectively 2 man days. I will tale the advice of Blackie and work out the points later…
I had a reasonable night, considering I was totally encased in rubber and wearing two hoods, the outer one being the re-breathing hood. The inner hood did cause me some problems as it pulls my lower jaw in slightly, which causes me some periodic breathing troubles as I fall asleep. The re-breather was plenty effective enough to keep my respiration rates up on normal. I countered this by forcing myself to stay awake till the small hours after a tough day, so that I would be ready to sleep heavily. This worked and I soon dropped off.
However, it was never going to be an uninterrupted sleep and several times and hour, my inner hood would win the elastic battle to bring my jaw in and would start restricting my breath – this was like a time-bomb attached to a snore. I would wake just enough to notice the “snore” and reposition my jaw or whole head to get free flow again. While this was happening, I would be aware of the effects of re-breathing – which was perversely delicious, although I could have done without the inner hood restricting my air flow.
Next time I will allow myself to take off the inner hood if I am going to wear the re-breathing hood to bed.
The erotic cycle of gagging, waking and finding myself in my rubber situation became more stimulating in the early morning. I found myself in a half awake state, working hard to breath and this dangerous erotic state became unbelievably stimulating. Eventually I could take no more and found myself writhing about uncontrollably and, as I came round, I erupted ferociously in my suit.
It was about 5am, so I decided to take off the outer hood as I had the feeling that I was so stimulated that I was ready to repeat the performance before day break and I needed at least some sleep.
Now I am up, I can report that I am quite comfortable in my suit. I am wearing goggles and filter mask over my hood, so totally sealed in and feeling ready for a day in latex. The only problems I have to report is that I have right ear is feeling the pressure of the hood and is a little painful sometimes. I hope this does not get worse as the day goes on.
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